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Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: Y H
Date: March 12, 2025, 7:29 pm
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Ok thank you for your help.
#Post#: 62266--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: Y H
Date: March 13, 2025, 5:20 am
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Hi,
Please see attached the reply I received for the SAR.
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Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 13, 2025, 5:54 am
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I would go back to the council and ask what caused the failed
payments to fail.
I would ask your bank the same question.
#Post#: 62280--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 13, 2025, 7:16 am
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Contravention 20 Feb.
Last day of 28-day period: Sun. 16 March after which they could
serve a NTO.
If you wait until after the weekend then you risk them
disregarding any informal reps if they're quick off the mark
with a NTO.
#Post#: 62287--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 13, 2025, 7:43 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
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> Contravention 20 Feb.
>
> Last day of 28-day period: Sun. 16 March after which they
could serve a NTO.
>
> If you wait until after the weekend then you risk them
disregarding any informal reps if they're quick off the mark
with a NTO.
>
--- End Quote ---
Informal reps have already been made, and there's an informal
rejection on the opening post extending the discount to 21
March, so they can't serve the NTO before then. If they do, then
it's an open and shut appeal on the penalty exceeds ground.
#Post#: 62292--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: Y H
Date: March 13, 2025, 8:26 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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> I would go back to the council and ask what caused the failed
payments to fail.
>
> I would ask your bank the same question.
>
--- End Quote ---
I have asked the council for the reason the payments failed.
I called the bank but they can’t see the failed payments from
their end.
#Post#: 62293--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: Y H
Date: March 13, 2025, 8:28 am
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Informal reps have already been made, and there's an informal
rejection on the opening post extending the discount to 21
March, so they can't serve the NTO before then. If they do, then
it's an open and shut appeal on the penalty exceeds ground.
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From what I understand do I have until 21st March?
#Post#: 62298--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 13, 2025, 8:34 am
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--- Quote from: Y H link ---
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> From what I understand do I have until 21st March?
>
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You don't have a deadline as such, but the penalty cannot
increase before 21 March.
If the council issues a notice to owner you will get a further
28 days to make formal representations, but you can in principle
make further informal representations before the notice to owner
is served.
However experience teaches us that making a second round of
informal representations is largely pointless as they are
normally disregarded anyway. Getting some photos of the machine
would be more useful for the purpose of making formal
representations at the notice to owner stage.
#Post#: 62306--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: Y H
Date: March 13, 2025, 9:21 am
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OK thank understood. I'll get some pictures after the weekend
#Post#: 62326--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment
machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 13, 2025, 10:17 am
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I forgot that informal reps have been rejected.
I would ask the question again...you have two declined
transactions for amounts which appear to exceed the max. payable
at the site. Could this have been the reason for refusal i.e.
you had input parking rights requirements which were not
available?
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