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2nd newham PCN
DIR By: Jill
Date: March 11, 2025, 3:48 am
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Hey everyone,
I’m back with another PCN on the same bay, but this time with a
different Contravention code: 12 and now 27. The writing on the
gates and the black lines painted over the white lines were all
done while the car was parked. If you check the GSV, you’ll see
bays without any warning signs on the gates. Also, if this
wasn’t a bay, why did I get a code 12 before? Newham doesn’t
even know who painted the lines black.
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Re: 2nd newham PCN
DIR By: Jill
Date: March 11, 2025, 4:06 am
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I did challenge it and reply is here
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Re: 2nd newham PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 11, 2025, 4:10 am
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Please post a GSV link, rather than screen captures. You parked
by a dropped kerb giving access. However, if the bay is still a
bay, this trumps the dropped kerb. But the bay markings seem to
have been painted over, so you need clarification on the status
of this bay. If Merton consider it is still a bay, then the PCN
is void, simple.
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Re: 2nd newham PCN
DIR By: Jill
Date: March 11, 2025, 4:55 am
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HTML https://g.co/kgs/6uXvBHH
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Re: 2nd newham PCN
DIR By: Jill
Date: March 11, 2025, 5:00 am
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Newham said in the reply I am unable to verify if the council
painted the walls or not, however, the markings next to your
vehicle looks like it has been blacked out and therefore you
cannot park
there. In conclusion,
Also that has been a bay for about 6yrs
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Re: 2nd newham PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 11, 2025, 5:28 am
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OK, so here is the latest GSV view dated April 2022 : -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/rqKBtof6uM2mkGDo9
As one can see it is a single bay not subdivided. So anybody
then could park in front of those gates because they would be in
a marked parking bay.
However, if one looks at your first photo, (IMG 2626), one can
see a clearly marked bay for a single vehicle, and the markings
adjacent to the gates are painted out by black paint, but that
has partly worn away. Then looking at IMG 2629, the new bay
markings are also clearly shown, and again the markings adjacent
to the gates are painted out but partly worn away.
This is clearly the work of the council, and a rather botched
job has been done, in that the white markings have merely been
painted over, rather than burnt off. Over time, the black paint
has worn off, thus exposing the markings once again.
So you could take them to London Tribunals on the basis that you
parked in a marked bay. The council must then prove that the bay
was re-arranged to allow the dropped kerb to remain free.
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Re: 2nd newham PCN
DIR By: Jill
Date: March 11, 2025, 5:50 am
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This is the man painting the lines from white to black, also
waiting near the van is the CEO
HTML https://postimg.cc/30gzPGCR
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Re: 2nd newham PCN
DIR By: Jill
Date: March 11, 2025, 5:52 am
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Also you can see a blanket on the drivers side of the bonnet
they placed to stop paint splashing
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Re: 2nd newham PCN
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 11, 2025, 5:56 am
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After the car was parked.
Pl get away from this for the moment...
OP, you need to revisit.
As suggested by others, what might have happened is that having
realised that their parking place obstructed the vehicle
crossover they've attempted to remove the offending length.
But this cannot be done just by removing markings, the length
must be removed by law i.e. the Traffic Management Order
amended. If not, then what you have is a designated parking
place with improper road markings!
Also, as such a change would create two separate parking places
both would need to have their own traffic signs.
Pl return and get pics of the traffic signs in this length of
street - photos which show context, not just close-up.
Also, we have members who can see whether the current traffweb
for Newham shows this to be a single parking place or not.
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Re: 2nd newham PCN
DIR By: Jill
Date: March 11, 2025, 6:10 am
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Pictures of the whole street or just that section?
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