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PCN for prohibited right turn in Islington
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: March 10, 2025, 4:58 pm
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Sorry for writing this message so late...my dad is in his 70's
and had issues sending me the photos. The 14-day period will be
over on the 12th March so any prompt feedback would be much
appreciated...
My dad was driving my mums car in Islington and picked up a PCN
for making a prohibited right turn. The ticket is addressed my
mum.
Hopefully you can all assist. Thanks
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Re: PCN for prohibited right turn in Islington
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 10, 2025, 5:27 pm
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Looks like here: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/anVtvY2jKoiDVb6S6
However Tollington Park is a long street and there are many
streets leading rigt off it, so one could argue 'vague locus'.
Certainly there are two NRT signs so one cannot argue inadequate
signage, in my opinion.
There may be a 'technical' appeal argument, so wait a bit, but
don't miss the discount deadline if that is what your father is
minded to do.
Your mother as the owner, has legal responsibility for paying or
appealing. Was your father following satnav ? Fatal in London
nowadays, one must keep a very keen eye open for signs
restricting entry to streets.
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Re: PCN for prohibited right turn in Islington
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 10, 2025, 5:56 pm
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No signs in video.
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Re: PCN for prohibited right turn in Islington
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: March 11, 2025, 2:44 pm
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> Looks like here: -
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/anVtvY2jKoiDVb6S6
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> Appreciate the review. Is it right that the 14-day discount
period ends tomorrow? Do you have an idea or some wording I can
use for an appeal?
>
> However Tollington Park is a long street and there are many
streets leading rigt off it, so one could argue 'vague locus'.
Certainly there are two NRT signs so one cannot argue inadequate
signage, in my opinion.
>
> There may be a 'technical' appeal argument, so wait a bit, but
don't miss the discount deadline if that is what your father is
minded to do.
>
> Your mother as the owner, has legal responsibility for paying
or appealing. Was your father following satnav ? Fatal in London
nowadays, one must keep a very keen eye open for signs
restricting entry to streets.
>
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> No signs in video.
>
>
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Re: PCN for prohibited right turn in Islington
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 11, 2025, 4:41 pm
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Absence of signage on the video can win an adjudication, but
will involve risking the full PCN penalty. The problem is that
the council can demonstrate the presence of the signs with a
witness statement and photographs.
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