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Re: Drove over the edge of Oxford ZEZ
DIR By: Hihun111
Date: September 18, 2023, 6:01 pm
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Whoops. Thought I already did!
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Re: Drove over the edge of Oxford ZEZ
DIR By: Hihun111
Date: September 18, 2023, 6:04 pm
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Re: Drove over the edge of Oxford ZEZ
DIR By: Hihun111
Date: September 19, 2023, 2:44 pm
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Any thoughts? I hate this hanging over me
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Re: Drove over the edge of Oxford ZEZ
DIR By: d612
Date: September 19, 2023, 3:12 pm
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You would have driven past this sign first, which is further
down George street before you get to the entrance of New Inn
Hall Street...the entrance to which is roughly where the bus is
on the street view image.
Had you carried on up George St much further you would have gone
through the no cars/bike "gate" which is reserved for buses.
See
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Vpaxptbwa5DkgbeG9
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Re: Drove over the edge of Oxford ZEZ
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 19, 2023, 3:23 pm
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--- Quote from: Hihun111 link ---
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> Any thoughts? I hate this hanging over me
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Basically, appeals against PCNs are won either on whether the
contravention occurred or not, usually but not exclusively on
the signage on the street, (missing, not visible etc), or on the
PCN, and errors of its mandatory content, and the management of
its enforcement. That's why we like to see the PCN.
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Re: Drove over the edge of Oxford ZEZ
DIR By: Hihun111
Date: September 20, 2023, 2:45 am
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I saw one sign so I knew the zez was coming, but then that sign
on an angle had me thinking it was straight ahead. If there’s
nothing else to be said I’ll just pay it
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Re: Drove over the edge of Oxford ZEZ
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 20, 2023, 5:49 pm
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You could make a plea for discretion, basically just asking to
be let off for a first time contravention. I can't see any
procedural flaws in the paperwork.
The problem we have is that for most councils we know whether
they reoffer the discount or not, but this is our first Oxford
ZEZ PCN so we have no way of knowing whether the discount would
be extended if they reject the representation.
On the other hand the daily charge is £10, so if you pay the
discounted penalty you've only actually lost £20. When you
consider that in London the ULEZ penalty is £180 discounted to
£90 for the first 14 days, you're really talking about a
de-minimis amount.
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Re: Drove over the edge of Oxford ZEZ
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: September 20, 2023, 6:28 pm
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I keep coming back to this one and must admit I am 50/50 at
best.
I take as read that the council will reject, whether they will
re-offer the discount, as CP says, dunno.
I am looking at chances if it gets to adjudication and simply
not sure how it would go.
The sign on the right that is facing traffic is mis-leading.
An adjudicator could easily use that and the minimal intrusion
into the zone to cancel the PCN.
But another could just as easily uphold the PCN.
Neither would be wrong in law, how misleading and how minimal
are subjective and subject to the whims of the adjudicator.
Your money, your choice...30 notes (net 20 as CP said) or double
or nothing gamble.
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Re: Drove over the edge of Oxford ZEZ
DIR By: armoured_comp
Date: August 13, 2024, 8:05 am
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Actually this is not totally correct about petrol cars before
2003 being non-compliant, our Fiesta registered Jan 2000, is
complaint and has a 'certificate of conformity' as Ford was an
earlier adopter of Euro 4 on some of there vehicles.
BTW
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> "I know nothing of all this ridiculous emissions stuff!"
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You do need to rapidly get up to speed on these zones because
they're going in all over the place, and the councils are dining
out very generously on the proceeds. Just so you are aware, a
petrol car built before about 2003 and diesel before 2015 are
not compliant with the emissions limits for these zones. The
recent ULEX expansion in London covers the whole of the London
area and the PCN penalties are eye-watering.
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