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Re: MET McDonalds - OVERSTAY - SLOUGH
DIR By: b789
Date: March 30, 2025, 7:04 pm
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Just put “McDonald’s Prince of Wales, Slough” and it comes up n
Google maps.
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Re: MET McDonalds - OVERSTAY - SLOUGH
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 31, 2025, 3:47 am
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I asked because the location is supposed to be clear in the NTK.
The "Prince of Wales" in Slough refers to a former pub, now a
McDonald's restaurant, located on Windsor Road and known for its
drive-thru service
A former pub. So it's not a postal address but a heritage
reference!
And OP, on the subject of drive-thru, could you take us through
what happened. You refer to collection which would be consistent
with drive-thru.
But not the two ordering times.
Why not just start at the beginning.
The driver drove in to what they now know is a former pub
and.......
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Re: MET McDonalds - OVERSTAY - SLOUGH
DIR By: b789
Date: March 31, 2025, 7:55 am
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I don't disagree. However, you'd be pressed to persuade a POPLA
assessor of that unless it was so generic as to create
ambiguity. I have had successful POPLA appeals against
ParkingEye where they have issued an NtK with the locations
simply stated as: Lidl St Neots. There are two Lidl's in St
Neots and as the address didn't clarify which of the two
possible stores it as for, the appeal was upheld.
The test I apply for this is you put what is in the address
exactly as stated on the notice and it comes up with more than
one option, then the address is not PoFA compliant as a relevant
location.
#Post#: 65138--------------------------------------------------
Re: MET McDonalds - OVERSTAY - SLOUGH
DIR By: pleasehelp
Date: April 1, 2025, 6:11 am
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Slough - The Prince Of Wales. WINDSOR ROAD SLOUGH, SL1 2JD
but does it matter? I was going to appeal with the points below
*No valid contract was formed due to inadequate signage,
including a poorly visible entrance sign.
*The charge is unfair and unenforceable under the Consumer
Rights Act 2015.
*MET Parking Services failed to provide a grace period or
consider extenuating circumstances, in breach of the BPA Code of
Practice.
*The charge is punitive and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss,
making it an unenforceable penalty.
But apparently whatever I thought could be a good reason for the
appeal turns out POPLA is not interested/will ignored according
to the advice given here. So either pay them or just turn out to
be continuous threatening by debt collector and dreading long
wait which I may be taken to court and eventually have to pay
anyway?!
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Re: MET McDonalds - OVERSTAY - SLOUGH
DIR By: b789
Date: April 1, 2025, 6:16 am
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Why on earth would just pay if you honestly believe that the PCN
has been issued unfairly. You sound just like the low-hanging
fruit on the gullible tree that these firms prey on.
If you are unsuccessful at POPLA, so what? A POPLA decision is
not binding on you. Debt recovery agent letters can. be safely
ignored as they are powerless to actually do anything.
A county court claim is actually a good thing. It is the
ultimate dispute resolution service. Why do you think that you
will automatically lose? In the vast majority of claims we
assist with, they are either struck out or discontinued. Of the
very few that ever go all the way to an actual hearing, most are
won.
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Re: MET McDonalds - OVERSTAY - SLOUGH
DIR By: pleasehelp
Date: April 1, 2025, 12:48 pm
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As quoted in MET letter below, if you opt to appeal to POPLA,
and should POPLA's decision NOT go in your favour, you will be
required to pay the full amount of £100.00. Also, if you choose
to do nothing, we will seek to recover the monies owed to us via
our debt recovery procedures and may
proceed with court action. Although it's unfair, you said I
can't win POPLA, so either pay now for £60, else £100 if POPLA
going to reject my appeal, or I ignore the letter and have
constant harassment from debt collector knocking on my door and
worse is I have to pay £250 when I have to go to court....what
choices do I have?
Snippet of appeal reply below:
"""
We are confident that our notice to keeper complies in all
respects with the requirements of the Protection of Freedoms
Act
This decision, which has been based on the facts of the case and
takes into account our consideration of any mitigating
circumstances, is our final decision. You have reached the end
of our internal appeals procedure and you now have a
number of options:
1. Pay or, if you were not the driver of the vehicle at the time
of the incident, request the driver to pay the parking charge
at the prevailing price of £60.00 within 14 days of today's
date. Please note that if payment is not received by this date
the parking charge will be payable at £100.00 and further costs
will accrue if the case is passed to our debt resolution
agents for collection or if we need to proceed with court action
to collect the money due to us. Payment may be made
online at www.paymetparking.com or by phone on 020 3781 7471.
2. Make an appeal to POPLA, the Independent Appeals Service,
within 28 days of the date of this letter by going to the
online appeals system at: www.popla.co.uk using verification
code: 3860845071 Please note that POPLA will consider
the evidence of both parties and make their decision based upon
the facts and application of the relevant law. Please
note that if you opt to appeal to POPLA, and should POPLA's
decision NOT go in your favour, you will be required to
pay the full amount of £100.00. Please note if the contravention
occurred in Scotland only the driver may appeal to
POPLA. By law we are also required to inform you that Ombudsman
Services (www.ombudsman-services.org) provides
an alternative dispute resolution service that would be
competent to deal with your appeal. However, we have not
chosen to participate in their alternative dispute resolution
service. As such should you wish to appeal then you must do
so to POPLA as explained above.
3. If you choose to do nothing, we will seek to recover the
monies owed to us via our debt recovery procedures and may
proceed with court action.
"""
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Re: MET McDonalds - OVERSTAY - SLOUGH
DIR By: b789
Date: April 1, 2025, 1:02 pm
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Well, they would say that because they are hoping you are
low-hanging fruit and easy to reach.
Which bit from this post was unclear?
--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> TO be brutally honest with you, I don't think you have any
chance at POPLA. What you have shown us above is not going to
work, especially as you have simply copied and pasted from
elsewhere bits that you think sound OK bat are totally
irrelevant to your PCN.
>
> I already explained why the PoFA argument is not going to work
because the PCN was fully compliant with PoFA in the first
place. So, whitening on about no Keeper liability, especially
that the NtK wasn't given within 14 days of the alleged
contravention is never going to work because to was issued only
3 days after the event!
>
> Not being successful at POPLA does not mean that you have to
pay the charge. The POPLA decision has no bearing on anything
going forwards.
>
> You say you can't afford the charge. Well, you wouldn't be
able to afford it if it went all the way to court and you were
unsuccessful because by then it will have increased to around
£250. However, that does not mean that you'd be unsuccessful and
the odds of it actually going all the way to a hearing
conclusion is low.
>
> Within the litigation process, you will have an opportunity to
have a mediator discuss between you and the claimant an
acceptable resolution. For example, you could come to an
agreement to an acceptably mutual sum. You could also offer to
pay that agreed sum in instalments... and so on.
>
> If it were me in your situation and knowing what I do about
the whole process, I would not worry about POPLA. I would let it
go all the way to litigation and once I knew which firm of
incompetent bulk litigators they use, I would then decide on
whether to try and come to an agreement during mediation or,
just let them issue a Claim and wait for them to discontinue.
>
> There is always an element of risk in this strategy but I am
only telling you what my position would be if I were in your
shoes but with my knowledge of how these things play out.
>
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