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       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: mairajbhaii
       Date: May 6, 2025, 8:33 am
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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       > [member=3853]mairajbhaii[/member] while the advice from John
       and Incandescent is not wrong, you don't want to bother with the
       TEC process if you can possibly avoid it, that should really
       only be used as a last resort.
       >
       > In the first instance please contact the council as a matter
       of urgency and try and get the following information about of
       them, in order of priority:
       >
       > 1) Has a notice of rejection been issued?
       > 2) If yes, what is the verification code on the notice of
       rejection?
       > 3) Can they email you a copy of the notice of rejection?
       >
       > As long as you get a positive answer to at least one of these,
       you can appeal directly to the tribunal without having to faff
       about with getting a statutory declaration sworn. If they refuse
       to answer you might need to force their hand by making a formal
       subject access request, but in the first instance I would call
       up and ask as most councils will provide these answer over the
       phone.
       >
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       I have had been trying to contact phone council but seems
       humanly impossible to get thru, it leads you with yes or no
       recorded options but no real person attends the call in any
       options
       Possibly will have to try visit them about this issue to inquire
       about notice of rejection or even acknowledging the responses
       submitted online.
       Regards
       #Post#: 70264--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: May 6, 2025, 11:27 am
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       [member=3853]mairajbhaii[/member] just force their hand by
       submitting a subject access request:
  HTML https://www.hillingdon.gov.uk/article/2479/Subject-access-request-form
       All you need to do is submit a SAR asking for the notice of
       rejection for this PCN, you don't need to provide any reasons
       for why you want it.
       There's no point in going there in person, the people who deal
       with PCNs are probably in some back office miles away from the
       main council offices. Even if you find the right office, I don't
       think there's any chance they'll come and speak to you face to
       face.
       #Post#: 70339--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: mairajbhaii
       Date: May 6, 2025, 8:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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       > [member=3853]mairajbhaii[/member] just force their hand by
       submitting a subject access request:
  HTML https://www.hillingdon.gov.uk/article/2479/Subject-access-request-form
       >
       > All you need to do is submit a SAR asking for the notice of
       rejection for this PCN, you don't need to provide any reasons
       for why you want it.
       >
       > There's no point in going there in person, the people who deal
       with PCNs are probably in some back office miles away from the
       main council offices. Even if you find the right office, I don't
       think there's any chance they'll come and speak to you face to
       face.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Although i have now requested for SAR of Notice of rejection,
       but attached you will see the way they replied to me first time
       when i asked for video evidence and later again they extended
       the date due to some technical issue with 3rd party.
       Expecting they will repeat this again this time as well.
       Fingers crossed
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 70355--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: May 7, 2025, 3:45 am
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       The NOR won't be held by a third party, so you shouldn't have
       this problem.
       #Post#: 72653--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: mairajbhaii
       Date: May 21, 2025, 4:16 pm
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       [member=1]cp8759[/member]
       Received these replies from council about SAR.
       For response about separate request, i replied to them, treat
       this separate request, although the previous SAR request was for
       VDO evidence which was later available online, but SAR still
       pending and was extended for another 2 months.
       Regards
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 72657--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: May 21, 2025, 5:36 pm
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       OK let us know when they reply.
       #Post#: 75667--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: mairajbhaii
       Date: June 9, 2025, 6:14 pm
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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       > OK let us know when they reply.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I have attached the ICO response for SAR of first request and
       the case report, now I am waiting for their response for Notice
       rejection, possibly they will reply to that, as I told them to
       keep both request separate.
       Kindly review and guide what's the best course of action now.
       Regards
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 75672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: June 9, 2025, 6:26 pm
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       Have you received anything after the Charge Certificate? The SAR
       reply is rather odd because it doesn't include the Charge
       Certificate, so we don't really know what happened after they
       received the letter of authority.
       I'd suggest you call TEC on 0300 123 1059 and check if the debt
       has been registered.
       #Post#: 75900--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: mairajbhaii
       Date: June 10, 2025, 3:20 pm
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       No havent received any charge certificate or SAR of notice
       rejection, only this reply was received,
       i wil call them see what they have got ...
       So i need to look for charge certificate for now ??
       Or ask them for debt registered or not??
       #Post#: 75959--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
       HN71513688
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: June 11, 2025, 3:56 am
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       --- Quote from: mairajbhaii link ---
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       > No havent received any charge certificate
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes you have, you put it in post 34 above.
       TEC won't know anything about the charge certificate, you just
       need to ask them if the PCN has been registered with them.
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