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Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: mairajbhaii
Date: March 17, 2025, 3:47 pm
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[member=1]cp8759[/member], what do i do next, as stil waiting
for the vidoe but no response so far.
#Post#: 62982--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 17, 2025, 5:06 pm
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In the circumstances all you can really do is submit a
representation stating that the alleged contravention did not
occur. Send it online and take a times / dated screenshot of the
confirmation page.
#Post#: 63011--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: mairajbhaii
Date: March 17, 2025, 11:18 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> In the circumstances all you can really do is submit a
representation stating that the alleged contravention did not
occur. Send it online and take a times / dated screenshot of the
confirmation page.
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Submitting this as below:
The PCN served does not show video evidence on the council's
website, and the alleged contravention did not occur.
Also the PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in
which the council
may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty Charge is not
paid before the end
of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of
this notice an
increased charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you
a Charge
Certificate.” The law states at Schedule 1 5:
1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the
penalty charge
to which it relates is not paid before the end of the relevant
period, the
enforcing authority may serve on that person a statement (in
this paragraph
referred to as a “charge certificate”) to the effect that the
penalty charge in
question is increased by 50 per cent.
(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice
is the period of 28
days beginning—
#Post#: 63022--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: March 18, 2025, 5:11 am
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--- Quote from: mairajbhaii link ---
>
> [quote author=cp8759 link=topic=5448.msg62982#msg62982
date=1742249166]
> In the circumstances all you can really do is submit a
representation stating that the alleged contravention did not
occur. Send it online and take a times / dated screenshot of the
confirmation page.
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Submitting this as below:
The PCN served does not show video evidence on the council's
website, and the alleged contravention did not occur.
Also the PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in
which the council
may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty Charge is not
paid before the end
of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of
this notice an
increased charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you
a Charge
Certificate.” The law states at Schedule 1 5:
1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the
penalty charge
to which it relates is not paid before the end of the relevant
period, the
enforcing authority may serve on that person a statement (in
this paragraph
referred to as a “charge certificate”) to the effect that the
penalty charge in
question is increased by 50 per cent.
(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice
is the period of 28
days beginning—
[/quote]
(a)where no representations are made under paragraph 1 above,
with the date
on which the penalty charge notice is served;
#Post#: 63159--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: mairajbhaii
Date: March 18, 2025, 5:35 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> [quote author=mairajbhaii link=topic=5448.msg63011#msg63011
date=1742271486]
> [quote author=cp8759 link=topic=5448.msg62982#msg62982
date=1742249166]
> In the circumstances all you can really do is submit a
representation stating that the alleged contravention did not
occur. Send it online and take a times / dated screenshot of the
confirmation page.
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Submitting this as below:
The PCN served does not show video evidence on the council's
website, and the alleged contravention did not occur.
Also the PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in
which the council
may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty Charge is not
paid before the end
of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of
this notice an
increased charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you
a Charge
Certificate.” The law states at Schedule 1 5:
1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the
penalty charge
to which it relates is not paid before the end of the relevant
period, the
enforcing authority may serve on that person a statement (in
this paragraph
referred to as a “charge certificate”) to the effect that the
penalty charge in
question is increased by 50 per cent.
(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice
is the period of 28
days beginning—
[/quote]
(a)where no representations are made under paragraph 1 above,
with the date
on which the penalty charge notice is served;
[/quote]
FYI - fingers crossed :'(
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#Post#: 63160--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 18, 2025, 5:47 pm
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To set your expectations, the council will almost certainly
refuse and you will then need to appeal to London Tribunals,
it's only at the tribunal that you get a fair hearing.
#Post#: 63191--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 19, 2025, 5:16 am
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OP, as I understand it:
You are not the registered keeper.
You have 'an authority letter from the Director of the
company[to which the PCN was addressed], as assigned driver for
use of car for social and domestic use.'
So, can we get back to procedure pl to prevent this from
potentially unraveling.
You cannot submit a SAR in your name because you are a stranger
in these matters and therefore not the 'subject'.
You could not submit reps in your name because the PCN is not
addressed to you.
So, may we see the letter from the Director pl.
Was this enclosed with the SAR and PCN?
If not, to whom and when was it sent.
#Post#: 65293--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: mairajbhaii
Date: April 1, 2025, 5:35 pm
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[member=1]cp8759[/member]
I have just received letter from council citing issue of
representation only be made by registered keeper unless I have
the signed letter-head from keeper for all liable. plz see
attached. what should be the course of action now??
[attachment deleted by admin]
#Post#: 65295--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 1, 2025, 5:40 pm
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Did you send the letter of authority from the Director of the
company together with the representation?
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Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN
HN71513688
DIR By: mairajbhaii
Date: April 1, 2025, 6:11 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> Did you send the letter of authority from the Director of the
company together with the representation?
>
--- End Quote ---
No, not with representation earlier, i got the letter later on
from the director
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