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       #Post#: 61081--------------------------------------------------
       DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - "Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property", Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: CurlyGirlCymru
       Date: March 7, 2025, 4:54 am
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       Hello,
       I received a debt collector letter from dcbl Direct Collections
       Bailiffs Ltd for £170, which I ignored, as I noted this has been
       advised on similar posts on this forum.
       However, I have now received a 'Letter of Claim' from DCB Legal
       Ltd (dated 18 Feb 2025 - link to copy below).
       To provide some context - I parked in a Costa Coffee Car Park
       while I stopped to purchase lunch and overstayed the 2 hour
       parking allowance, according to dcbl Direct Collections Bailiffs
       Ltd, by less than 10 minutes.  The bailiff letter included
       photos of my car showing the times I arrived and left.
       The reason given for the fine is "Vehicle Remained in Private
       Property In Breach Of The Prominently Displayed Terms and
       Conditions."
       I used to visit this Costa Coffee regularly in between meetings
       and have never noticed the parking restrictions before. I
       assumed I was OK to park there as I have always been a paying
       customer when using the carpark.
       I wrote to Costa Coffee when I received the bailiff letter but
       they have not responded.
       I have dated proof of a purchase from this visit to Costa Coffee
       on a bank statement, and as it was for work, I'm sure I have a
       receipt from my expenses claim.
       I would be very grateful for advice on what to do next to avoid
       paying the £170 fine.
       Thanks
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       #Post#: 61082--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - &quot;Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property&quot;, Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: March 7, 2025, 4:56 am
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       Original notice to keeper before all this? Do you have it? Can
       you post it? DCBL is acting on behalf of whoever issued this.
       #Post#: 61084--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - &quot;Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property&quot;, Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: CurlyGirlCymru
       Date: March 7, 2025, 5:03 am
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       Thanks for replying.
       The original notice to keeper is here:
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       This was the first letter that I received.  I also saw on an
       earlier post advice that you should ignore letters from DCBL
       Debt Collections Bailiffs Ltd but not from DCBLegal.
       On the back it has timestamped images of my car arriving and
       leaving the car park, showing and under 10 minutes 'overstay'.
       #Post#: 61085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - &quot;Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property&quot;, Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: CurlyGirlCymru
       Date: March 7, 2025, 5:06 am
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       I will double-check to see if I've missed anything but I don't
       believe I have.
       #Post#: 61090--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - &quot;Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property&quot;, Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: March 7, 2025, 5:16 am
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       That’s not the notice to the keeper, which was originally sent
       by Parking Eye sometime after 17/7/24.
       Whilst you should indeed ignore DCBL, you shouldn’t ignore the
       original notice from Parking Eye, but maybe you never received
       it. Is the V5C document for your car accurate?
       #Post#: 61093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - &quot;Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property&quot;, Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: CurlyGirlCymru
       Date: March 7, 2025, 5:17 am
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       After a rummage, I have found a Parking Notice Charge from
       'Parking Eye'!
       Copy here:
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       I was 11 minutes over the two hour time allowed.
       #Post#: 61095--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - &quot;Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property&quot;, Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: March 7, 2025, 5:20 am
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       OK, you received it, question about V5C no longer relevant.
       #Post#: 61097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - &quot;Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property&quot;, Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: CurlyGirlCymru
       Date: March 7, 2025, 5:22 am
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       Ah, I see.  So shall I just pay up the £170 to the bailiffs?
       #Post#: 61103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - &quot;Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property&quot;, Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: March 7, 2025, 5:30 am
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       The back of the notice to the keeper would be useful as well,
       does it mention the Protection of Freedoms Act? On the face of
       it it’s compliant to transfer liabilty from the driver to the
       keeper but only if it has the right words.
       Wait for others to provide input before paying anything I
       suggest. I can’t myself see a magic get-out but that doesn’t
       mean there isn’t one.
       I have at the back of mind a thought that Parking Eye only use
       DCBL for cases they think are hopeless, but I can’t substantiate
       that thought. If correct you ‘just’ have to endure the paperwork
       chain until they give up. Wait for better input!
       #Post#: 61110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DCB Legal Ltd 'Letter of Claim' - &quot;Vehicle Remained in
       Private Property&quot;, Costa Coffee Birchgrove, Swansea
   DIR By: CurlyGirlCymru
       Date: March 7, 2025, 5:44 am
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       Thank you!
       Here's the back of the letter:
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       It does mention the 'Protection of Freedoms Act 2012'.
       I'll wait to see if anyone else replies.
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