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#Post#: 60992--------------------------------------------------
PCN from Ocean Parking for Milton Keynes
DIR By: Seamus
Date: March 6, 2025, 1:00 pm
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Hi All,
Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to this.
As the registered keeper of the vehicle I was sent the PCN for
'no ticket'. I have spoken to the driver and they did buy a
ticket and provided me with the attached receipt which had gone
through their work shredder but they were able to piece
together. This did prove that they paid for parking, they have
also extracted the line on their bank statement so I have seen
this too. Neither the driver nor myself have any images of the
car park signage on Secklow gate so not sure whether it should
be Pay and Display which is why I received this letter or even
if a parking ticket was given as the receipt displays the
vehicle reg (blocked out).
I have attached copies of the letter and parking receipt,
although quite dark the pictures of the vehicle were taken in
daylight and are very clear on the letter.
Any advice gratefully received.
Many thanks
Seamus
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#Post#: 61004--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ocean Parking Milton Keynes
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 6, 2025, 2:39 pm
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You have got a private parking ticket so need to get this thread
moved to the private tickets form. Click on the text "Report to
moderator" bottom-left of your post to request it be moved.
#Post#: 61007--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ocean Parking Milton Keynes
DIR By: Seamus
Date: March 6, 2025, 2:48 pm
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Ok, thanks. Message sent to Moderator.
#Post#: 61046--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Ocean Parking for Milton Keynes
DIR By: b789
Date: March 6, 2025, 6:35 pm
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Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not PoFA compliant [9(2)(a) and
9(2)(e)(i)] so they cannot recover anything from the Keeper,
even though they say they are relying on PoFA 9(2)(f) because
they have to comply with ALL the requirements of the Act and
they clearly haven't.
Additionally, you have the permit that was paid for.
Others will give you the advice on how to appeal and what the
likely outcome will be. In short, this will likely go all the
way to a court claim where you you will easily win or, more
likely, they will eventually discontinue once they realise they
are not dealing with low0hanging fruit on the gullible tree.
#Post#: 61063--------------------------------------------------
PCN from Ocean Parking for Milton Keynes but i bought a ticket.
DIR By: Seamus
Date: March 7, 2025, 3:48 am
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I have uploaded clearer images of the PCN. Hopefully they are
clearer to read. If anyone is able to help me with drafting a
response to Ocean that would be gratefully received. This is
really frustrating as the driver did purchase a parking ticket
which includes the period when the vehicle was photographed.
[attach=1][attach=2]
Many thanks in advance.
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#Post#: 61080--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Ocean Parking for Milton Keynes
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: March 7, 2025, 4:52 am
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Do you have (or can you easily acquire) photos of the signage at
the site?
#Post#: 61141--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Ocean Parking for Milton Keynes
DIR By: baroudeur
Date: March 7, 2025, 6:52 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> Do you have (or can you easily acquire) photos of the signage
at the site?
>
--- End Quote ---
This is typical signage at Secklow Gate car parking and well
distributed through Central Milton Keynes parking area.
HTML https://tinyurl.com/4995p2f6
Edit: the car park locations are usually four figure codes
whereas the location on the notice is shown as E 1.1.
Secklow Gate is a length of road sections with off street
parking areas.
#Post#: 61254--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Ocean Parking for Milton Keynes
DIR By: Seamus
Date: March 7, 2025, 3:35 pm
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> Do you have (or can you easily acquire) photos of the signage
at the site?
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi, I have taken pics of the site, please see below.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/4noU0Gu
I have added brief descriptions below the images.
This is my suspicion - but only my thoughts. I wonder if the
first payment machine is for the first row of parking and then
the other payment machines are for the remainder of the car
park. However there are no signs stating this fact. I would also
point out that in image 'Pay Machine 1 Front view' that the
parking spaces that you see behind the machine are also classed
as E1 where the registered vehicle was parked. There are no
signs stating where you should collect your ticket from.
I would also point out that on one of the Ocean signs it states
that payment should be made before leaving the car park which
seems to contradict the pay and display on arrival
Apologies in advance if the imgur link does not work, if it does
great, if not I will work out how to post below.
Many thanks.
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Re: PCN from Ocean Parking for Milton Keynes
DIR By: b789
Date: March 7, 2025, 4:44 pm
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You paid at the wrong machine. Part of the car park is council
run and the other part is private and run by Ocean Parking. Your
ticket shows you paid at the council machine, not the machine
for the private car park.
#Post#: 61265--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Ocean Parking for Milton Keynes
DIR By: Seamus
Date: March 7, 2025, 5:08 pm
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Frustrating as its not really obvious to a 1st time visitor. Is
there any value in appealing on grounds of reply #3, or that one
of their signs says pay before leaving or that signs don't say
which payment machine to use? If not guess I'll reluctantly have
to pay 😞
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