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       #Post#: 60651--------------------------------------------------
       Parking Eye PCN - Overstay - ASDA Crawley
   DIR By: crawley123
       Date: March 5, 2025, 4:30 am
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       Hi forum
       I (as registered keeper) have received the below PCN from
       parkingeye.
       The incident - the driver used the ASDA car park for a visit to
       the nearby hospital to attend an appointment, as it has a
       certain amount of time free parking. the appointment overran
       significantly, the driver returned to the car and tried to pay
       for the parking and the machine said they were over the allowed
       time and could not make a payment. the driver then left the car.
       Am I able to appeal this PCN on the basis they have sent this to
       the registered keeper and are not aware who the driver was?
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       #Post#: 60655--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Eye PCN - Overstay - ASDA Crawley
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: March 5, 2025, 4:36 am
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       As long as Parking Eye has complied with the Protection of
       Freedoms Act, which it believes it has, the liability for the
       payment of the invoice can be transferred to the registered
       keeper from the (unknown) driver. So does this comply with PoFA?
       If you don’t know, others will advise.
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       #Post#: 60762--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Eye PCN - Overstay - ASDA Crawley
   DIR By: b789
       Date: March 5, 2025, 11:12 am
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       TheNtK does not comply fully with all the requirements of PoFA.
       However, the point has not been argued at court, even though a
       district judge agrees with me that should it ever be raised in
       their court, it should be a valid argument.
       It is up to you if you are prepared to fight this all the way to
       a court hearing, should it ever get that far. Any initial appeal
       will be rejected and there is a slim chance a moronic POPLA
       assessor will agree because their understanding of the law is
       flawed.
       The Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not compliant with PoFA
       9(2)(e)(i).
       So, in order to save some time, are you prepared to fight this
       all the way?
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       Re: Parking Eye PCN - Overstay - ASDA Crawley
   DIR By: crawley123
       Date: March 6, 2025, 5:15 am
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       So you are saying if we appeal it it will be rejected by
       parkingeye automatically and then it is up to chance if POPLA
       agree or disagree?
       I am not sure I am willing to go to court over this to be
       honest.
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       Re: Parking Eye PCN - Overstay - ASDA Crawley
   DIR By: ixxy
       Date: March 6, 2025, 8:03 am
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       They will reject your appeal if your appeal is based on b789
       believing the ntk is not POFA compliant as will POPLA, will need
       to go to court to get a decision. On the face of it you are
       exactly the sort of motorist ASDA are obviously trying to
       dissuade from using their customer car park.
       Options are
       1. Accept the driver didn't adhere to the terms of the contract
       and that you can probably be held liable, pay the invoice.
       2. Look for another avenue of legitimate appeal, e.g.
       frustration of contract (car broke down, medical emergency etc.
       going to a hospital appointment which over ran doesn't count,
       would need to have been whilst shopping in Asda or similar).
       Other potential appeals grounds would be defective, inadequate
       or missing signage, onus would be on you to prove.
       3. Rely on the argument that the ntk may not be fully POFA
       compliant and hope a judge agrees with you.
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