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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
g the rejection letter
By: H C Andersen Date: March 7, 2025, 2:37 am
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Does your 'hiring agreement' contain all of the following
particulars?
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/2546/schedule/2/made
- £200+ per day for hire!!
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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
g the rejection letter
By: marie Date: March 7, 2025, 4:10 am
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[member=428]H C Andersen[/member]
Thanks
Yes it is at high cost as the insurance dealt with the hire
bike.
They supply new motorbike and new helmet.
What I understood was that:
They cannot take any risk to supply second hand vehicles in case
there is any issues with the vehicle they won't take any chances
for the vehicle they send out breaking down and have any
accident.
They probably sell the used motorbike after its been used.
I wish not to make things even more complicated to dispute
against the hire firm. If I could avoid...
I believe they have all that they need in the file as they do
check the licence online with the DVLA and they have taken my
Licence number to check.
My insurance and all they needed they had added Pillion cover on
top for this hire (with age restriction).
A. Particulars of person signing statement of liability*
YES : Full Name.
YES : Date of birth.
YES : Permanent Address.
YES : Address at time of hiring (if different from 3 above and
stay is likely to be more than two months from date of hiring).
YES : Details of Driving licence - as FULL
N/A : a). Country where issued - as it is UK
NO : b). Serial number or Driver number - as DVLA Licence check
Completed
NO : c). Date of expiry (which should be no later than date
specified in B7 below). - as it is answers Licence Expired : NO
- date not specified.
* Where the statement of liability is in Part II of form H, the
full name and address of the person by or on whose behalf the
statement of liability was signed should be supplied together
with the date on which it was signed. If the person taking
possession of the vehicle is not the same as the person by or on
whose behalf the statement was signed, the full name of that
person should also be supplied (if known).
B. Particulars of hiring agreements
YES : Registration mark of vehicle hired under the hiring
agreement.
YES : Make and model of vehicle hired under the hiring
agreement.
N/A : Registration mark of any vehicle substituted for the above
during the currency of the hiring agreement. - as supplied only
1 vehicle stated above.
N/A : Make and model of any vehicle substituted for the above
during the currency of the hiring agreement.
N/A : Time and date of any change of vehicle.
YES : Time and date of commencement of original hiring period.
NO : Expected time and date of expiry of original hiring period.
- as it was depended on the insurance company.
N/A : Time and date of commencement of authorised extension of
hiring period.
N/A : Expected time and date of expiry of authorised extension
of hiring period.
N/A : Actual time and date of return of vehicle (or when vehicle
returned out of hours time and date on which vehicle-hire firm
next opened for business). - as the agreement was signed before
I returned the vehicle few month later.
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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
g the rejection letter
By: marie Date: March 7, 2025, 4:28 am
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[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Thank you so much for this, I have read and prepared the PE3
form.
[img width=540 height=762]
HTML https://i.imgur.com/946utDG.png[/img]
As my Charge Certificate is dated 2025.01.28, and I have been
back and forth with the Lambeth Parking Services,I have no idea
when the date I am supposed to submit PE3.
Lambeth Parking Services - view PCN
HTML https://pcnevidence.lambeth.gov.uk/pcnonline/index.php
[img width=646 height=341]
HTML https://i.imgur.com/j4uX4iI.png[/img]
Does this mean I have to check this site everyday?
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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
g the rejection letter
By: ivanleo Date: March 7, 2025, 5:14 am
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[member=4627]marie[/member] every day is a bit over the top,
once a week is fine. As soon as the amount goes up to £205, go
and get the form sworn and then email it to tec@justice.gov.uk
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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
g the rejection letter
By: marie Date: March 7, 2025, 6:29 am
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[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Thank you so much for helping me with all those.
For the allocation and the angle of all those time restricted
pedestrian zone are placed unfairly to the drivers as the signs
are not informing the vehicle approaching to the entrance of the
street.
Just for information: example of better sign-post
There is a new sign-post placed at some of the junctions which I
found at least 1 (374 South Circular Road, Wandsworth)
Entering from Upper Richmond Road into Dryburgh Road.
Location :
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/2khamyL2QnSdkv3B7
HTML https://i.imgur.com/nfhDyOh.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/7Wa29HF.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/8pJLarH.png
Which seems to be more sufficient
1). Slightly into the Dryburgh Road even If missed No turning
sign.
2). It will or should be LED lighted at the time restricted even
if the driver had no access to a watch.
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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
g the rejection letter
By: ivanleo Date: March 7, 2025, 6:33 am
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[member=4627]marie[/member] at this stage all of that is
irrelevant, and none of this should be mentioned on form PE3,
which should be filled in based on the instructions in the
guide I posted above. Once the TEC angle has been dealt with, we
can look at the merits of the PCN, but at the moment the merits
of the PCN are irrelevant.
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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
g the rejection letter
By: Hippocrates Date: March 7, 2025, 7:19 am
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[member=4627]marie[/member] Just relax please. We will deal with
this for you all in due course. 8)
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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
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By: marie Date: March 9, 2025, 5:26 am
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Thank you so much for all your help.
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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
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By: mrmustard Date: March 9, 2025, 5:41 am
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Re: Lambeth - PCN 53j - Charge Certificate £195 before receivin
g the rejection letter
By: marie Date: May 8, 2025, 12:43 pm
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Hi, [member=1]cp8759[/member]
It was impossible to get any appointment at the county court the
form signing as no one answers the appointment line to make
appointment. without an appointment, cannot go into the court
desk.
I have found a Barrister of a court through friends contact and
emailed the PE3 form to The Traffic Enforcement Centre.
I have received a letter from the Traffic Enforcement Centre
Ordering to cancel
* Notice for Recovery
* Charge Certificate
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sans-serif][img width=595
height=840]
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It mentions the original Penalty Charge Notice is NOT Cancelled.
The council's website has not been updated and it is still at
£205
Please guide me to the next step.
Marie
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