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       #Post#: 60232--------------------------------------------------
       Contravention code 53 - failing to comply with restrictions
       entering a pedestrian zone - Clarence Road Willesden
   DIR By: Melamili
       Date: March 2, 2025, 9:24 am
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       Good Afternoon,
       My aunty got a PCN sent to her for entering a pedestrian zone
       while during restricted hours.
       She says she failed to see the sign as it was quite high up on
       the main road before turning into the street with the pedestrian
       zone.
       This is the PCN she received.
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/jpteWSD
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       Am I right in thinking contraventions captured by CCTV cameras
       in London can be appealed successfully?
       Many thanks for help.
       Mel
       #Post#: 60233--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contravention code 53 - failing to comply with restrictions
       entering a pedestrian zone - Clarence Road Willesden
   DIR By: Melamili
       Date: March 2, 2025, 9:27 am
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       sign on the main road
  HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5415389,-0.2058298,3a,75y,127.54h,76.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s31VUI7tYop-8_hAdzOpgVQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D13.233614414527025%26panoid%3D31VUI7tYop-8_hAdzOpgVQ%26yaw%3D127.53754821622313!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDIyNi4xIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D
       Signs on the road of pedestrian zone
  HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5412822,-0.2053292,3a,75y,83.59h,85.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIl8RnhYueoDXtD_Fjl4ZYw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D4.98527850991519%26panoid%3DIl8RnhYueoDXtD_Fjl4ZYw%26yaw%3D83.59431225490403!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDIyNi4xIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D
       #Post#: 60242--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contravention code 53 - failing to comply with restrictions
       entering a pedestrian zone - Clarence Road Willesden
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 2, 2025, 11:14 am
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       The blue advance notice sign is not a traffic sign, so could be
       appealed on that basis, because the signs at the start of the
       restriction would not be visible to an approaching motorist
       turning left.
       It all depends on whether you are prepared to forego the
       discount option, because the council will never give way, as
       they keep all the penalty money, so are hardly unbiased.
       #Post#: 60800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contravention code 53 - failing to comply with restrictions
       entering a pedestrian zone - Clarence Road Willesden
   DIR By: Melamili
       Date: March 5, 2025, 2:25 pm
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       I am happy to forego the discount option if there is a good
       chance of success on appeal.
       Is the London CCTV defense not an option in this case?
       Also can you please elaborate regarding the advanced sign not
       being a traffic sign.
       Many thanks.
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       Re: Contravention code 53 - failing to comply with restrictions
       entering a pedestrian zone - Clarence Road Willesden
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: March 5, 2025, 3:18 pm
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       cp8759 has had success re their website grounds.
       #Post#: 60814--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contravention code 53 - failing to comply with restrictions
       entering a pedestrian zone - Clarence Road Willesden
   DIR By: Melamili
       Date: March 5, 2025, 4:11 pm
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       Please can I get feedback for my draft representation, also are
       the cctv grounds no longer successfull?
       Dear Sir/Madam,
       I would like to make a representation on the following grounds.
       The contravention did not take place. The sign indicating a
       pedestrian zone cannot be considered a traffic sign because of
       its height making its visibility severely limited and would no
       be visible to approaching motorists turning left.
       Also there is a lack of consistency between the grounds of
       appeal on the Authority's PCN and those on the website. When
       entering the Authority's website a motorist is faced with a
       General Representation invitation and then as you progress it
       provides a box for the representation thus prejudicing the
       motorists ability for a fair representation.
       Kind regards,
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