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       #Post#: 62329--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 13, 2025, 10:28 am
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       --- Quote from: anonymous link ---
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       > [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=5302.msg62316#msg62316
       date=1741876815]
       > In Roman Road that permit holder sign doesn't need to be there
       as there are no bays for permit holders in a PPA so it's
       redundant but can be seen as a repeater sign for the PPA.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm sorry I am a bit confused. It seems that you guys are saying
       that if it is a bay then permit holder can not park there at
       all?
       [/quote]
       The sign governing the bay is the pay sign. The permit sign is
       nothing to do with the bay. I was confused at first until Mr
       Anderson pointed out it's a PPA and that sign is at the end of
       the bay.
       #Post#: 62330--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: anonymous
       Date: March 13, 2025, 10:31 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > [quote author=anonymous link=topic=5302.msg62327#msg62327
       date=1741879408]
       > [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=5302.msg62316#msg62316
       date=1741876815]
       > In Roman Road that permit holder sign doesn't need to be there
       as there are no bays for permit holders in a PPA so it's
       redundant but can be seen as a repeater sign for the PPA.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm sorry I am a bit confused. It seems that you guys are saying
       that if it is a bay then permit holder can not park there at
       all?
       [/quote]
       The sign governing the bay is the pay sign. The permit sign is
       nothing to do with the bay. I was confused at first until Mr
       Anderson pointed out it's a PPA and that sign is at the end of
       the bay.
       [/quote]
       But this sign clearly does or am I missing something? Apologies
       if I am being daft.
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       #Post#: 62337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 13, 2025, 10:41 am
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       Sorry I didn't read back. If there is a shared use permit/pay
       sign in the bay and the car has a permit for there then that's
       compelling grounds for cancellation despite the CEO taking a pic
       of the other sign.
       We've broken a golden rule here with two cases in one thread...
       #Post#: 62338--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: anonymous
       Date: March 13, 2025, 10:44 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > Sorry I didn't read back. If there is a shared use permit/pay
       sign in the bay and the car has a permit for there then that's
       compelling grounds for cancellation despite the CEO taking a pic
       of the other sign.
       >
       > We've broken a golden rule here with two cases in one
       thread...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       OK thought I was going crazy there! Yes it is a bit confusing
       with the 2 different threads going on at the same time as this
       post was post was initially created just to ask for advice on no
       reply received to a challenge.
       Is it easier if I split this into another thread?
       In regards to Roman Road, do I just appeal saying that I was
       within my rights to park there? What grounds would I select?
       #Post#: 62345--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 13, 2025, 11:26 am
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       For Roman Road the reps would be contravention didn't occur if
       you are certain the permit for that bay is valid and the shared
       use sign is there, a pic of which you'd send.
       If you want to go on with the other one I suggest starting a new
       thread for it and gathering the info posted so far.
       #Post#: 62363--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: anonymous
       Date: March 13, 2025, 12:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > For Roman Road the reps would be contravention didn't occur if
       you are certain the permit for that bay is valid and the shared
       use sign is there, a pic of which you'd send.
       >
       > If you want to go on with the other one I suggest starting a
       new thread for it and gathering the info posted so far.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is it worth mentioning that no response was received for the
       challenges to the PCN?
       In regards to the other PCN, mrmustard has very generously
       offered to make representations on the drivers behalf.
       #Post#: 62421--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: March 13, 2025, 5:32 pm
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       A family member has approached me for advice this time. They
       received 2 tickets on the same day (different roads) for
       parking.
       In regards to Roman Road, do I just appeal saying that I was
       within my rights to park there? What grounds would I select?
       I get confused when we move from third parties to first person.
       Roman
       Single bay; traffic signs at either end with different
       restrictions?
       Khartoum
       Single bay; single defaced and unreadable sign?
       #Post#: 62452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: anonymous
       Date: March 14, 2025, 3:57 am
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > I get confused when we move from third parties to first
       person.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So do I  :D. Third person is not natural for me. In this case I
       talk in first person because they have asked me for help with
       their tickets. And its easier to write haha
       --- Quote ---
       >
       > Roman
       > Single bay; traffic signs at either end with different
       restrictions?
       >
       > Khartoum
       > Single bay; single defaced and unreadable sign?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Precisely
       #Post#: 63582--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: anonymous
       Date: March 21, 2025, 6:21 am
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       Good news all! They have cancelled the Roman Road PCN. I lodged
       an challenge 4 days ago and it seems they could not wait to
       cancel - seems they expect that bay is a problem having
       contradicting sign posts. Have not received a letter yet but I
       logged in to the portal and it says Notice Cancelled.
       #Post#: 63624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Appealed - No reply received
   DIR By: Grant Urismo
       Date: March 21, 2025, 10:34 am
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       Congratulations. Taking a screenshot of the portal might be a
       wise precaution just in case they try to change their minds, but
       it's highly unlikely.
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