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       Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: ghostivv
       Date: September 13, 2023, 10:56 am
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       Originally posted over PePiPoo and advice given to wait for
       order of recovery which is yet to receive.
       Hi all,
       PCN is for Yellow Box Junction in Plumstead Common/Bloomfield
       Road, Greenwich. I made a small representation not hoping much
       but at least knowing that there'll be discount when it gets
       rejected. Nothing heard and thought as usual Council taking
       their time and out of nowhere yesterday received Charge
       Certificate. I've gone through few threads and general advice is
       to wait for Order of Recovery and file in Statutory Declaration.
       IMO it's a dirty tactics from Council. They may have realised
       that they couldn't serve NOR within 56 days and instead issued
       CC. Now I don't have benefit of discounted amount and PITA
       dealing with extra paperworks.
       Anyway before proceeding further and detailing the case for
       possible hearing, should I contact council (email) just to
       enquire about what happened to NOR?
       Timeline:
       1) PCN received. Date of Notice 1st June 2023.
       2) PCN contravention: 31J Entering and Stopping in YBJ @
       Plumstead Common Road/Bloomfield Rd (Greenwich). Making right
       turn which I thought are allowed and the very purpose of the YBJ
       but I misunderstood the regulations. Date of contravention :
       20th May 2023.
       3) Made representation on 13th June 2023 online and confirmation
       email received.
       4) Charge Certificate received on 11th Aug 2023. Date on CC:
       10th Aug 2023.
       Thanking You.
       #Post#: 5067--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: September 13, 2023, 11:11 am
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       Was
  HTML http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=151033
       You could try
       1) checking the online status of the PCN on the Greenwich site
       2) Ringing TEC to see if debt has been registered.
       0300 123 1059
       See
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       #Post#: 5069--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: ghostivv
       Date: September 13, 2023, 11:19 am
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       Thanks. Council site showing outstanding CC charge and will call
       TEC tomorrow morning.
       #Post#: 5074--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: September 13, 2023, 12:01 pm
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       AFAIK, only the Traffic Management Act 2004 requires a reply to
       formal reps within 56 days
       #Post#: 5168--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 14, 2023, 4:26 pm
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       This lot do have staffing issues - according to them.
       #Post#: 5305--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 17, 2023, 11:50 am
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       --- Quote from: ghostivv link ---
       >
       > Thanks. Council site showing outstanding CC charge and will
       call TEC tomorrow morning.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well, what did they say?
       #Post#: 6505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: ghostivv
       Date: October 2, 2023, 5:46 am
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       sorry for late reply. Tried calling few days different times and
       gave up waiting more than half hr. Finally got round to someone
       today while reading few threads here and the PCN is not
       registered yet at TEC.
       #Post#: 6521--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: October 2, 2023, 6:24 am
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       I would just keep checking the amount due on the council website
       once a week or so.
       #Post#: 9462--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: ghostivv
       Date: November 7, 2023, 5:20 am
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       Called again this morning and debt is still not registered.
       Coming to 3 months since the receipt of CC. Council site showing
       outstanding £195.
       #Post#: 9509--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Charge Certificate but no NOR (Greenwich)
   DIR By: SITR
       Date: November 7, 2023, 2:43 pm
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       Make sure all the documents have the exact location. There are 2
       YBJs on Plumstead Common Road (jct Burrage Rd & jct Bloomfield
       Rd) - if it just says Plumstead Common Road (as has happened to
       others) it's surely contestable.
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