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#Post#: 59806--------------------------------------------------
Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: Jamran
Date: February 26, 2025, 2:43 pm
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Good evening everyone.
I sadly got a ticket on my windscreen today. We parked on a pay
and display with a blue badge, which allows unlimited parking.
As a result, I did not display the clock. The thing I didn’t
know was that after the hours of enforcement (0700-1900) it
changes to an enforced single yellow line from 1900-0700. We
parked at around 1730 and by the time we came back at ~1940, I
was greeted with a ticket on my windscreen. Do I have a case to
fight considering the confusing hours of enforcement? Had I
known, I would’ve just displayed the clock with it and I still
would’ve been within the 3 hours. I feel the two different rules
for one spot is very confusing.
Here is the GSV
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/1oHAUgJm8eRXhRX39
Images of PCN and sign post
HTML https://ibb.co/XnYnQv5
HTML https://ibb.co/JRJ1pwBK
HTML https://ibb.co/LzFtLjB
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 26, 2025, 3:49 pm
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Quite a few people get caught out by these hybrid bays, where
there is a sign and a marked bay with a yellow line by the kerb.
The yellow line is meant to alert you that there is a
restriction outside the hours on the sign. Normally there would
be a yellow sign at the top of the pole with the "No Waiting"
sign, plus the days and hours restricted, placed above the
parking sign. However, this location may well be in a Controlled
Parking Zone, so I suggest you look on the TH website for a map
of their CPZs.
One could say by not having the yellow sign at the top, they
have failed in their LATOR Regulation 18 responsibility, but
arguments like this usually end up at London Tribunals. Submit
reps anyway, point out your are a BB holder so would have been
exempt from the yellow line, and your total parked time was well
within the time allowed.
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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: Jamran
Date: February 26, 2025, 4:18 pm
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It is indeed in a CPZ. Weirdly enough, the timings for its zone
(A3) is 0830-1730. I think just this small stretch of street is
0700-1900. There’s no mention of it in the website
HTML https://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/lgnl/transport_and_streets/Parking/parking_zones_and_charges/Parking_zones.aspx
Also, it does have the yellow “no waiting” sign.
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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 27, 2025, 5:28 am
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Too much signage = confusion.
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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: Jamran
Date: February 27, 2025, 12:18 pm
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Do you think I’ve got a chance?
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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 27, 2025, 3:19 pm
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IMO, no on this point.
The driver holds a licence and is presumed to know what the
combination of parking bay markings AND yellow line means. All
they were expected to do when consulting the traffic sign was
establish the detail KNOWING that there was a waiting
restriction and parking restriction. Nothing else on the post
bears upon this issue.
The analysis starts with the yellow line, which is clear.
But views differ.
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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: February 28, 2025, 5:02 am
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Your best bet is to say you usually display your parking clock
when parking on yellow lines but because you parked when it was
a pay and display you didn't think it was necessary but realise
that as the bay turned into a no waiting restriction the clock
was necessary.
But as the PCN was issued early into what would have been a 3
hour exemption and you returned shortly after its issue you
trust that the council would kindly exercise discretion as the
blue badge was clearly displayed as shown in the CEO's pictures.
You have three other outstanding PCNs showing with Tower Hamlets
including one from last May - is this still live?
HTML https://i.ibb.co/N6j4nhST/Screenshot-2025-02-28-at-10-42-06.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/fGMYjP1Y/Screenshot-2025-02-28-at-10-35-35.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Wpf7vXGd/Screenshot-2025-02-28-at-10-35-17.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/WNpcdhWL/Screenshot-2025-02-28-at-10-34-59.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/w1J5mgv/Screenshot-2025-02-28-at-10-34-53.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/MyjFYT67/Screenshot-2025-02-28-at-10-34-42.png
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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: Jamran
Date: February 28, 2025, 1:59 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> Your best bet is to say you usually display your parking clock
when parking on yellow lines but because you parked when it was
a pay and display you didn't think it was necessary but realise
that as the bay turned into a no waiting restriction the clock
was necessary.
> But as the PCN was issued early into what would have been a 3
hour exemption and you returned shortly after its issue you
trust that the council would kindly exercise discretion as the
blue badge was clearly displayed as shown in the CEO's pictures.
>
> You have three other outstanding PCNs showing with Tower
Hamlets including one from last May - is this still live?
>
>
--- End Quote ---
No. It’s not live anymore. Not sure why it’s still showing.
Thanks
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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: Jamran
Date: March 31, 2025, 8:32 am
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Just received their response, and as expected, they’ve rejected
it.
HTML https://share.icloud.com/photos/0c27MfSrEZ3scN_4qcjd3VOag
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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 31, 2025, 8:57 am
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What was your challenge. The rejection is just a template.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/X3tjSTM.jpeg
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