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#Post#: 59769--------------------------------------------------
PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a valid
pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: Moaya
Date: February 26, 2025, 9:52 am
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Hi Guys,
I received a PCN for failing to display a ticket. I just had a
moment and forgot to pay whilst rushing to an appointment. I
know its a long shot but are there any technical grounds on
which I can appeal this PCN.
I don't have any real mitigation and I have already consigned
myself to accepting this is an expensive lapse in concentration.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/3cph6xr
- PCN front and back
Than you in advance.
Moaya
#Post#: 59773--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a
valid pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 26, 2025, 10:10 am
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Appears to be the wrong contravention grounds.
GSV shows a traffic sign requiring either that a ticket is
purchased and displayed OR that the motorist pay by phone. A CEO
would be required to check the car for a P&D ticket and their
HHC for any payments by phone/text and if neither then issue a
PCN for failure to pay the parking charge, not
non-display....how can not displaying be a contravention in
itself if it is only an option?
Wait for others.
#Post#: 59820--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a
valid pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: Moaya
Date: February 26, 2025, 4:23 pm
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Thank you for your reply.
What contravention ground do you think would have been more
appropriate?
I will wait on others to reply.
#Post#: 59969--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a
valid pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: Moaya
Date: February 28, 2025, 6:54 am
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Any further input from anyone will be greatly appreciated.
I think I have by end of today to pay the discounted charge.
Thanks in advance.
#Post#: 59992--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a
valid pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 28, 2025, 9:46 am
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Send in reps today. Unsuccessful reps submitted within the
14-day discount would attract a further 14 days to pay the
discount once you receive their response.
It is a no-risk move to submit reps today online as instructed
in the PCN.
Dear Sir,
***all the PCN and VRM preamble...
I make representations on the following grounds:
The contravention did not occur.
As the authority will see from their evidence (the CEO's photos)
the restriction in effect is given in the traffic sign which
states:
Pay by phone
or Text
or Pay at the machine and display ticket.
Clearly, displaying a ticket is an optional matter for a
motorist and therefore the contravention grounds of 'Parked
without displaying a ..ticket or voucher' cannot be correct or
even permissible contravention grounds because, among other
matters, they deny the owner the defence of having purchased
parking rights By Phone or Text.
Contravention grounds must be correct and comprehensive in order
to alert an owner to their possible applicable defences.
If the authority believes that use of these grounds where
payment By Phone or by Text or by purchasing and displaying a
ticket are valid then they must explain the legal basis for this
assertion when London Councils' Schedule of Contravention
Descriptions already lists the correct grounds i.e. Parked
without payment of the parking charge.
Wait for others but don't miss the deadline of today.
#Post#: 70975--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a
valid pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: Moaya
Date: May 11, 2025, 4:44 pm
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Hi guys,
Please see the reply from the council and advise further.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/OvU109O
Many thanks.
#Post#: 70977--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a
valid pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: Moaya
Date: May 11, 2025, 5:24 pm
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This was my initial representation:
Dear Sir, I make representations on the following grounds: The
contravention did not occur. As the authority will see from
their evidence (the CEO's photos) the restriction in effect is
given in the traffic sign which states: Pay by phone or Text or
Pay at the machine and display ticket. Clearly, displaying a
ticket is an optional matter for a motorist and therefore the
contravention grounds of 'Parked without displaying a ..ticket
or voucher' cannot be correct or even permissible contravention
grounds because, among other matters, they deny the owner the
defence of having purchased parking rights By Phone or Text.
Contravention grounds must be correct and comprehensive in order
to alert an owner to their possible applicable defences. If the
authority believes that use of these grounds where payment By
Phone or by Text or by purchasing and displaying a ticket are
valid then they must explain the legal basis for this assertion
when London Councils' Schedule of Contravention Descriptions
already lists the correct grounds i.e. Parked without payment of
the parking charge. Please respond via email as I have been
having problem with post deliveries recently. Kind regards
#Post#: 71113--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a
valid pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: Moaya
Date: May 12, 2025, 2:48 pm
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Any advice would be appreciated, I need to reply today. I am
thinking to go ahead and appeal. Should I include examples of
precedents such as Russo vs Plymouth?
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WW83Desv43qE8aviq2wez1KRsivNCqME/view
Thanks.
#Post#: 71119--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a
valid pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: May 12, 2025, 3:44 pm
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You are not asked for a reply. You either pay or wait for a NTO
to be issued to the registered keeper.
Their argument is tosh, but what did you expect, their
misunderstanding is systemic.
Are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details?
#Post#: 71120--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Kingsbury Road - parked without clearly displaying a
valid pay and display ticket or voucher
DIR By: Moaya
Date: May 12, 2025, 3:52 pm
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Sorry I meant with regards to the discounted penalty. Yes I am
the registered keeper.
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