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       #Post#: 59293--------------------------------------------------
       Average Speed A10
   DIR By: sugarray
       Date: February 22, 2025, 6:40 am
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       Hi All
       My son was in a car last week and they got caught by a speeding
       camera. 46mph in 40mph average speed zone. They both drove the
       car it was his friends car and they were test driving. The
       evidence doesn't show much so its hard to tell who was driving.
       What should they do now? The friend has a NIP on his name. I
       think they have both been on speed awareness courses in last 3
       years or less. Was a silly mistake. What could be done please?
       Regards
       #Post#: 59298--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Average Speed A10
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: February 22, 2025, 7:11 am
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       Not your son’s problem. His friend needs to work out who was
       driving. Hopefully your son was insured to drive his friend’s
       car.
       #Post#: 59424--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Average Speed A10
   DIR By: sugarray
       Date: February 23, 2025, 2:28 pm
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       They've been friends for 30 years we do t want this nonsense
       ending that. I tried to do a Google location but can't work it
       out. Not sure how to advise
       #Post#: 59426--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Average Speed A10
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: February 23, 2025, 3:12 pm
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       What they should do is determine who was driving. As they have
       not posted themselves, and you have not told us what they have
       done to try to determine who was driving, there's not much we
       can add to that.
       #Post#: 59429--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Average Speed A10
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: February 23, 2025, 3:38 pm
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       > They've been friends for 30 years we do t want this nonsense
       ending that.
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       You may well see it as nonsense but it will end in tears if they
       cannot work out who was driving. If they don't, his mate will
       end up convicted of "failing to provide driver's details". This
       will mean six points, a hefty fine and an endorsement code which
       will see increased insurance premiums for five years.
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       > I tried to do a Google location but can't work it out. Not
       sure how to advise
       --- End Quote ---
       The only advice you can give them is as above.
       #Post#: 59459--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Average Speed A10
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: February 24, 2025, 5:00 am
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       It seems the key bit of info for resolving this is location. Why
       can you not determine this? What is the exact location given as
       printed on the NIP? The A10 is a long road.
       Presumably as two fully functioning 30+ year olds, with no
       medical issues, remembering where they changed drivers a week
       ago will not be a problem.
       As they have been down this avenue before, they will know that
       shrugging their shoulders and saying dunno guv will see someone
       charged with a s.172 offence. I expect they know who was
       driving, or will as soon as they can determine the location.
       #Post#: 59836--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Average Speed A10
   DIR By: sugarray
       Date: February 27, 2025, 1:56 am
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       They know who was driving the car. The friend drove north and my
       son south. The problem is it's not clear where the camera
       spotted them. I added links to the letter and location if it
       helps. Otherwise we will write to the police for more evidence.
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/16RC-m5Ij32KK5WaaZpoWNXD9Cp_V3zbJ/view?usp=drivesdk
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/16Qxi5-uS3_ag7U2n6fGjalvFPatY4I1g/view?usp=drivesdk
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/16PyTD7w7OTXduklCE0rTCgbvxKzOHSox/view?usp=drivesdk
       #Post#: 59837--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Average Speed A10
   DIR By: 666
       Date: February 27, 2025, 2:13 am
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       >
       > They know who was driving the car. The friend drove north and
       my son south. The problem is it's not clear where the camera
       spotted them. I added links to the letter and location if it
       helps. Otherwise we will write to the police for more evidence.
       >
       >
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/16RC-m5Ij32KK5WaaZpoWNXD9Cp_V3zbJ/view?usp=drivesdk
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       >
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/16Qxi5-uS3_ag7U2n6fGjalvFPatY4I1g/view?usp=drivesdk
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       >
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/16PyTD7w7OTXduklCE0rTCgbvxKzOHSox/view?usp=drivesdk
       >
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       The NIP says southbound (S/B).
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