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#Post#: 59689--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: February 25, 2025, 1:17 pm
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Well it's worth running the argument, here's a draft
representation:
[indent]
Dear London Borough of Brent,
I contend the alleged contravention did not occur owing to
inadequate signage. I was turning left into the road and the
regulatory signs are parallel to the kerbline of Chamberlayne
Road, the council obviously accept the need for an advance
warning sign because one has been placed before the junction.
Unfortunately it is clear that the sign before the junction has
been knocked out of position, I refer you to the attached
images.
In light of the above the alleged contravention did not occur,
it follows that the PCN must be cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
Please send the following two images with your representation:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/6MduOLq.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/rCUSKq7.png
Don't forget to take a screenshot of the confirmation page.
#Post#: 59692--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: Mjet
Date: February 25, 2025, 1:46 pm
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Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member],
Great thanks [react][/react]. PCN challenged, images included
and I have screen grabs of the submission.
Fingers crossed this works, again thank you for all your help :)
#Post#: 59701--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: February 25, 2025, 4:31 pm
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[member=4527]Mjet[/member] just to set expectations, the
overwhelming likelihood is that the representations will be
rejected, but you certainly have an arguable case to pursue on
appeal to the tribunal.
#Post#: 63676--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 21, 2025, 4:25 pm
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For later: The Brent (Prescribed Routes) (Pedestrian & Cycle
Zone) (No. 3) Experimental Traffic Order 2024
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1riu03aCTU9YHGELHkqX91jP7XPCKqBU8/view
#Post#: 75119--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: Mjet
Date: June 6, 2025, 7:52 am
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Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member],
You were right. I’ve just received the rejection notice
regarding my case. I completely forgot about this, I can't
beleive they took soo long to respond.
You can view the notice here:
HTML https://imgur.com/gallery/pcn-letter-of-rejection-8KnMJRl
Could you please advise on the next steps I should take?
Many thanks,
Min
#Post#: 75197--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 6, 2025, 4:10 pm
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The next step would be to appeal to the tribunal, I'll drop you
a PM in case you'd like me to represent you.
#Post#: 75221--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 7, 2025, 6:07 am
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Photos!
They have produced evidence in the form of photos dated 28 Jan.
with the warning sign orientated towards the driver. Within this
thread there are also undated photos showing the contrary. Ditto
for GSV.
These show at least that the sign could be likened to a windsock
and 'blows' where it will depending upon wind direction! More
importantly these must surely show/mean that:
The authority attach weight to its orientation because they
included it as part of their rationale;
It's not a constant.
What was it like on the date of the contravention? Would
you/your rep be able to cast sufficient doubt upon its
orientation such as to persuade the adjudicator to allow your
appeal?
#Post#: 77401--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: Lon217
Date: June 20, 2025, 10:50 am
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Hi all,
I also have a PCN at the same place at the end of January.
The signs were taken down between then and some point about 6
weeks ago and replaced. I have photo evidence of the signs taken
down.
Clearly the signage was inadequate.
What is the correct course of action as I’m about to write a
first appeal.
Thanks
#Post#: 77406--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 20, 2025, 11:34 am
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--- Quote from: Lon217 link ---
>
> What is the correct course of action as I’m about to write a
first appeal.
>
--- End Quote ---
Start your own thread.
#Post#: 77412--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles
entering a pedestrian zone,Okehampton Rd NW10 Chamberlayn
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 20, 2025, 11:49 am
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--- Quote from: Lon217 link ---
>
> Hi all,
> I also have a PCN at the same place at the end of January.
> The signs were taken down between then and some point about 6
weeks ago and replaced. I have photo evidence of the signs taken
down.
> Clearly the signage was inadequate.
> What is the correct course of action as I’m about to write a
first appeal.
> Thanks
>
--- End Quote ---
For advice with your own case please to
have a read of
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and start your own thread with
a brief account of all the circumstances (by all means include a
reference (link) to this thread),
all sides of the PCN and of all correspondence to and from the
Council (redact only yr name & address - leave all else in),
any Council photos,
and
a GSV link to the location.
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> I’m about to write a first appeal.
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Reps to Council or appeal to tribunal?
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