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Re: FPN - Section s33. s87 - Name and address inside bin bag as
evidence only
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: September 11, 2023, 4:33 pm
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> I'm not sure that a paper questionnaire could be relied upon
for the purposes of an adverse inference. Looking at section 34
of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 it mentions
"on being questioned under caution by a constable trying to
discover whether or by whom the offence had been committed",
presumably there's something somewhere the disapplies the
constable requirement for local authority investigations?
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Section 34(4): “This section applies in relation to questioning
by persons (other than constables) charged with the duty of
investigating offences or charging offenders as it applies in
relation to questioning by constables; and in subsection (1)
above “officially informed” means informed by a constable or any
such person.”
#Post#: 4933--------------------------------------------------
Re: FPN - Section s33. s87 - Name and address inside bin bag as
evidence only
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: September 11, 2023, 4:53 pm
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To back up a few posts, and perhaps surprisingly to those of you
familiar with "witness statements" from Private Parking
Companies, a witness statement consists solely (other than the
declaration(s)) of statements of fact witnessed b directly by
the witness, or in certain cases where clearly identified as
such, provided by a third party.
If a witness statement said that the witness knows that X done
it because he (the witness) found an envelope with X's name and
address in the bag, that is evidence of two things - that the
witness found an envelope with X's name and address on it in the
bag, and that the witness has a demonstrable disregard for truth
as evidenced by the declaration on the witness statement.
You do not need to call a witness to challenge what is clearly
conjecture.
#Post#: 7338--------------------------------------------------
Re: FPN - Section s33. s87 - Name and address inside bin bag as
evidence only
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 13, 2023, 4:29 am
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IMO they are incorrect as regards the law and its enforcement.
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/household-waste-duty-of-care-fixed-penalty-notice-guidance/guidance-for-local-authorities-on-household-waste-duty-of-care-fixed-penalty-notices
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6274d74bd3bf7f5e3ade6090/Waste_duty_of_care_code_of_practice.pdf
Householders' Duty of Care as regards waste is s34(2A) (which
actually applies to 'occupiers' not householders), not s87,
which is litter-related.
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