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Constant harrasment from Islington - Can i sue them ? -
Maladministering unjustified fines
DIR By: anon561
Date: February 17, 2025, 9:41 am
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I have two issues
1) I live on a school street road. This road prohibits people
entering it via vehicle between 1500-1600hrs. Unless you have a
valid residents permit. The rules regarding this are extremely
grey. Especially with things like changing your number plate to
a private one. If you buy a residents permit you are
automatically whitelisted into the school streets ANPR system.
So it has never been an issue for me. But one year ago I put a
private reg on my car, and emailed the school streets team.
Because they took weeks to get back to me, I ended up with about
4/5 PCNs. As apparently they expect me to put my original number
plate back on every time i drive into my own street, until they
can be bothered to update it in their system. Challenging them
was always denied. I took it to the tribunals and compiled
evidence and won. As per the Islington traffic management order,
I am entitled a permit, and had one. This actually got so
outrageous trying to get them to whitelist my new VRN that it
was easier for me to end my current residents parking permit and
just buy a new one for £60 to be automatically whitelisted.
Fast forward a year later to now, They have sent me 3 of the
same fines again since the new year. Not heard back since
submitting challenges yet, But this is a joke. I also emailed
the school streets team again and they replied with a bogus
email stating if I want to be whitelisted again I need to
provide my new car insurance document since mine ran out 7 Feb
2025, yet all the fines I got were 16-1-2025, 30-1-2025,
4-2-2025. I'm sure you can see how comical this is. Furthermore
its bizarre that they request me to send my documents to them
via email, yet if I just buy a new permit I'm whitelisted, as I
have to provide the same document there also. If perhaps the
whitelisting process only has a 1 year life span, They should
clearly state this on their website / elsewhere. Yet this is not
stated anywhere, and is not actually clear if this is the case
yet.
2) Onto my second issue. On occasion I rent out my car through a
family business. Its the only car we have that we rent out. The
hire agreement we have the renters sign, states clearly that
they are responsible for all fines and they know this. In the
past year we have had 4 PCNs from Islington, come through when
vehicle was hired out. When challenging it and requesting to
transfer liability to the renter, on the first PCN, Islington
requested a copy of the hire agreement and an accountant letter.
Then they transferred the liability fine. The exact same renter,
on the same hire agreement, a day or two later got a second PCN.
Islington refuses to transfer liability, despite it being the
same person and the same hire agreement. They now sent a letter
claiming the transfer of the first PCNs liability was a mistake.
The vehicle is registered to one of my family members as an
individual. We do own a LTD company and do rent out the vehicle
via it on occasion. The same family member is also a sole
trader. Islington persistently state they will not transfer
liability since the vehicle is registered to an individual. How
is a sole trader who rents out cars on occasion supposed to
register the vehicle to a company? There is nothing wrong with
renting out a vehicle as a sole trader... It is bizarre to set
up a whole LTD structure, a whole individual bank account, just
because you on occasion a few times a year rent out your car.
Furthermore there are actually no clear rules produced by
Islington to state what their requirements are to transfer
liability of your vehicle was rented out.
Since all these PCN challenges are constantly denied, I have now
taken the hire agreement ones to the London tribunals again.
Still waiting for the school streets challenge results to come
back. But this is borderline harassment. I run multiple
businesses with my family and the amount of time I have had to
set aside to compile evidence for everything and the rest is
outrageous. It costs me time and money.
I have already started an email thread with all local
councillors Yesterday. I am taking this to the Local Ombudsman
also.
Is there any way I can sue the Islington for wasting my time?
How do I get money off them> as this is a total joke. All fines
I have received that were me or my family, legitimate errors, we
always pay them.
I am totally furious.
Any advice please?
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