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       Wing Parking- Not clearly displaying a valid permit
   DIR By: antman40
       Date: February 17, 2025, 5:33 am
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       Hello.
       A PCN has been received from Wing Parking for 'Not clearly
       displaying a valid permit' in a housing estate car park. A valid
       permit had been displayed on the offside of the vehicle
       (driver's pillar window).
       Due to the overgrowth of the ivy bush in the photo obscuring the
       windscreen the driver thought to place the permit at the pillar
       window of the vehicle where it would be seen by the PA.
       Obviously the PA did not observe the offside of the vehicle as
       there are no evident photos taken.
       The print of the PCN is very faded but what I'd like to point
       out is that the PCN doesn't contain details regarding the FoPA,
       no observation time etc.
       Can anybody give advice on how to appeal this PCN or can
       possibly share a template appeal?
       Uploaded photos from Wing Parking are below and attached. TIA. x
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       #Post#: 58504--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wing Parking- Not clearly displaying a valid permit
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: February 17, 2025, 6:10 am
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       Take a look at this thread: "Not parking in a designated area"
       Wing Security on behalf of London Borough of Haringey
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/'not-parking-in-a-designated-area'-wing-security-on-behalf-of-london-borough-of-/msg47234/#msg47234.
       Wing are not an approved operator member of either the BPA or
       IPC. They therefore cannot access the DVLA database to contact
       the keeper. Ignore the PCN.
       #Post#: 59772--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wing Parking- Not clearly displaying a valid permit
   DIR By: antman40
       Date: February 26, 2025, 10:08 am
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       Thank you for sharing this thread and a good read too.
       If Wing Parking were to come back with a NTK can I appeal prior
       to that on the fact that the vehicle was not observed all round
       and the parking permit was actually displayed on the offside of
       the vehicle? (driver's pillar window) which is still visible.
       Their photos does not show the offside of the vehicle.
       Whilst I have 28 days to submit an appeal. Any templates to use
       on the fact that a parking permit had been displayed? TIA.
       #Post#: 59777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wing Parking- Not clearly displaying a valid permit
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: February 26, 2025, 11:01 am
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       My recommendation has not changed:
       --- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
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       > Wing are not an approved operator member of either the BPA or
       IPC. They therefore cannot access the DVLA database to contact
       the keeper. Ignore the PCN.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       By appealing, you would provide them with your contact details,
       which they have no way of legitimately obtaining themselves.
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