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#Post#: 4838--------------------------------------------------
Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: zincy
Date: September 11, 2023, 2:33 am
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Hello all,
My uncle parked in a loading bay on Green St (Newham) and found
the signage confusing.
The PCN was given 10 minutes before the loading only time
lapsing and the parking time starting.
The place the contravention took place is here
HTML https://goo.gl/maps/J4eFHBRU9SGd8ffn9
The PCN is here
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yqmjcCLUR0ANT0ADRqiUqi60QYk5guhj/view?usp=sharing
The timeplate is here
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SBOCMEU1XQPsOJ2uoDsYkGzGtMjukWFi/view?usp=sharing
I would be grateful if you could advise if there are any grounds
to appeal this PCN?
Thank you
Zincy
#Post#: 4847--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 11, 2023, 4:56 am
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Well, first question has to be why did he park there ? If he was
loading/unloading there was no contravention.
If not doing the above, he appears to be bang-to-rights on the
contravention, but lots of things can make a PCN void such as
errors of content, so please post up the back of the PCN.
I see no legislation and regulations listed at the top of the
PCN either. Is the PCN photo exactly as you received it ?
#Post#: 4926--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 11, 2023, 4:32 pm
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Well there's a blue badge on display and BB holders can park in
loading bays:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/9BozaWP.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/R6jAEGR.jpg
Draft reps:
[indent]
Dear London Borough of Newham,
As the CEO's photos show, a blue badge was properly displayed on
the vehicle, it follows that the alleged contravention did not
occur.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
#Post#: 8835--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: zincy
Date: October 31, 2023, 2:01 pm
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Dear CP and all,
My uncle received the attached from Newham.
I assume that we should wait for the notice of owner?
[attachment deleted by admin]
#Post#: 8924--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 1, 2023, 2:54 pm
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Yes, just wait for the notice to owner and let us know when you
get it.
#Post#: 12042--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: zincy
Date: December 7, 2023, 8:30 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> Yes, just wait for the notice to owner and let us know when
you get it.
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi CP - please find attached as requested.
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Re: Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: lexy
Date: December 8, 2023, 12:31 pm
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You sure about blue badges being allowed in loading-only bays?
It didn’t sound right so I looked it up, and every council
policy seems to be the opposite, even Newham’s:
HTML https://www.newham.gov.uk/health-adult-social-care/accessible-transport/2
#Post#: 12344--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: zincy
Date: December 13, 2023, 7:44 am
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Hey all,
Any idea on what response I can draft to the NTO please?
#Post#: 12769--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: December 21, 2023, 11:17 am
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Draft reps:
[indent]
Dear London Borough of Newham,
You have stated in your informal rejection that "Blue badge
holders are not permitted to park in a loading bay", this is not
correct. I refer you to the following tribunal decisions:
Cassidy on behalf of Cassidy v Kirklees Metropolitan Council at
LINK1
The review decision in Cassidy on behalf of Cassidy v Kirklees
Metropolitan Council at LINK2
Karen Lewin v Kent County Council (with Canterbury CC) at LINK3
Anthony Granville Clarke-Grenfell v Devon County Council at
LINK4
In light of the above the PCN must be cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
I will PM you some links to replace LINK1, LINK2, LINK3 and
LINK4, they will redirect to here
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1gvuqjl_eFCact5ruLgpe4w1RLuoCj8pp,<br
/>here
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=13-7oN_dLyNtY8DlTCmPdMFefqFFLbx8v,<br
/>here
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1HOrYPHV6sikQSl-SHXfVpY4TyZE3sMcb<br
/>and here
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1bZhSbg1ooKFvD2BE-ncIiq-_zoTbMLUY<br
/>but if you give them the links I'll PM you, we can use the
click
count to confirm whether they've looked at them or not
(obviously do not click on the links I PM you as we want the
click count to remain at zero). If they don't click on them, we
can then prove they've failed to consider all of the evidence.
If they say in the rejection that they've considered all the
evidence, we've got them for lying as well.
#Post#: 16736--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - Green St Parked in a loading place or bay during
restricted hours without loading
DIR By: zincy
Date: March 3, 2024, 4:26 pm
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Hi CP
Newham wrote to my uncle with the attached.
Strange.
The owner is his wife but he was driving at the time and the
blue badge is under his name.
Please advise?
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