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#Post#: 58823--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
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DIR By: El-Roi
Date: February 18, 2025, 8:09 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> OP, you have to make a choice.
>
> If you are the registered keeper then you could either pay the
discount or continue. If the latter, you might be exposed to the
full penalty should your reps be unsuccessful.
>
> What are chances of success if it goes all the way to Tribunal
?
>
> As regards grounds, a strict interpretation of the regs means
that the contravention did not occur. This follows because the
authority accept that 'you have submitted a valid permit' and
yet have cited grounds precluded by this fact. However, this is
after the fact, IMO the key admission here as regards issuing
the PCN on the chosen grounds is 'I must also note that no
details of the permit are visible'.
>
> I agree. But as Stamfordman pointed out another code 16 should
have been issued instead.
> As regards 'I must also note that.....CEOs within Medway do
not have the capability', they might say this, I couldn't
possibly comment!
>
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Thanks Noted.
#Post#: 58832--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
Partially Displayed
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 19, 2025, 3:48 am
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Are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details?
#Post#: 58837--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
Partially Displayed
DIR By: El-Roi
Date: February 19, 2025, 4:49 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> Are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details?
>
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Yes
#Post#: 71065--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
Partially Displayed
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 12, 2025, 10:14 am
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[member=3651]El-Roi[/member] have you received anything further?
The PCN is now up to £75, so a charge certificate has been
issued. This is not the end of the world, but you need to tell
us what you have received so that we can deal with it before you
miss any deadlines.
I've also had this rather odd response from the council:
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>
> Please see attached the TRO relating to your request, located
within the time allowed, and accept our apologies for any
confusion caused previously. Medway Council holds copies of
these older TROs but does not have the capacity to catalogue
them and their contents to make the information easily
retrievable to current staff.
>
> There are no staff dedicated to retrieving older traffic
orders that weren’t consolidated in 2015/2016 and no single
register, as TROs have fallen under the remit of various
employees/departments/teams in the past.
>
> Orders that were not consolidated in 2015 or 2016 remain valid
in their own right; the attached is one of these. There are a
large number of orders that are not catalogued (both paper
copies and scanned copies in various locations), meaning
information requested about a specific road takes considerable
time to identify; reading through all schedules for entries
relating to a particular road.
>
> Whilst there are no staff resources that can be diverted to
catalogue the older TROs and their contents, this will be
rectified via a separate project ahead of identifying and
digitising all TROs at Medway Council.
>
> All documents from this time have been archived and searching
through the archives would take staff over the required amount
of time to respond to an FOI. Therefore, investigating this
further will require a charge.
>
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All I've been sent it a draft copy of the Medway Council
(Designated Parking Places) (Amendment) (No.2) Order 2001
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F_ZvwcSVn5QCVP6j_au5kHHiDMU3HohF/view,<br
/>so the council might struggle to produce a copy at the
tribunal,
but we need to deal with the charge certificate first.
#Post#: 72422--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
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DIR By: JOJO1209
Date: May 20, 2025, 12:04 pm
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@H C Anderson
[member=2249]stamfordman[/member]
[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Update CC Charge Certificate received dated 28.04.25
cp8759-sent you a copy of the CC on 3rd May.
Should I upload a copy of the CC here?
No NTO was received. So couldn't make a formal representation as
per earlier advice on this post
On 3rd May received a Charge Certificate dated 28th April 2025.
Waiting for the debt to be registered and I will complete the
TE9 form.
Checked Medway website this afternoon, debt still showing at
£75.
Called HMTCS (TEC); line was closed.
Will call TEC tomorrow to check if debt has been registered.
Any advice will be welcomed.
Thanks.
#Post#: 72480--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
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DIR By: ivanleo
Date: May 20, 2025, 7:17 pm
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Aside from checking with TEC if the debt is registered, you
really don't need to do anything else. Noting can happen until
the debt has been registered.
#Post#: 84457--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
Partially Displayed
DIR By: El-Roi
Date: August 6, 2025, 11:26 am
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@H C Anderson
[member=2249]stamfordman[/member]
[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Hi all,
Quick update on my PCN: the council withdrew the Charge
Certificate (great news!).
Now I need to submit a formal representation to the council
while the case is back at the NTO stage.
Please could someone help me draft a strong,compelling
representation
- NTO date: 08 July 2025
Thanks so much — your advice has been invaluable so far!
#Post#: 84459--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
Partially Displayed
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 6, 2025, 11:36 am
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You made a witness statement?
An NTO dated 8 July means you about out of time - you need to do
something now.
A quick read back suggests:
The contravention did not occur. The permit I displayed was
obscured but it wasn't invalid.
The informal rejection demands an amount that exceeds the amount
lawfully due.
#Post#: 84466--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
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DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 6, 2025, 1:04 pm
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+1.
The latest date for making formal reps which must be considered
is TODAY.
As per stamfordman, you don't have time to refine reps.
#Post#: 84471--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 19 Meadowbank - Resident Parking Permit
Partially Displayed
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 6, 2025, 1:48 pm
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--- Quote from: El-Roi link ---
>
> Hi all,
> Quick update on my PCN: the council withdrew the Charge
Certificate (great news!).
>
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What does this even mean? Please show us the paperwork you have
received.
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