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       #Post#: 61406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: March 8, 2025, 6:23 pm
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       The Notice to Owner will go to the address of the registered
       keeper as held by DVLA.
       #Post#: 62169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: runninghorse
       Date: March 12, 2025, 2:23 pm
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       I still have not receive the notice to owner yet...should I just
       wait for this document to arrive?
       #Post#: 62179--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: March 12, 2025, 3:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: runninghorse link ---
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       > I still have not receive the notice to owner yet...should I
       just wait for this document to arrive?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you tried checking online to see if Westminster have a
       status/history page for your PCN (often lurking under
       Pay/Challenge my PCN or somesuch)?
       #Post#: 62200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: runninghorse
       Date: March 12, 2025, 4:47 pm
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       thank you very much...I have tried but don't see such a section
       on the Westminster parking page. I can see in the reponse to my
       challenge that I should received the notice to owner within 14
       days of this letter (14 February), which takes me to 28
       February. The Westminster page still says "The amount
       outstanding on the Penalty Charge Notice will increase to
       £195.00 on Sat, 19 Apr 2025. Please pay £65.00 now."
       Option 2 - Make a Formal Representation
       If you do not pay within 14 days from the date of this letter,
       the full charge of £130 will fall due. If you have not paid
       before
       the end of this 14 day period or the period of 28 days beginning
       with the date of service of the PCN, whichever is the later,
       then we will issue a Notice to Owner (NtO) to the registered
       keeper of the vehicle. The NtO will allow the registered keeper
       to make full payment or a formal Representation, appealing
       against the issue of the PCN; the procedure for doing so will be
       explained on the NtO. Any new evidence can be presented with the
       formal Representation.
       #Post#: 62213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: March 12, 2025, 5:29 pm
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       I think this amounts to an unlawful threat:
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       The website is basically saying "pay now or else" and "You
       cannot challenge twice", while the truth of the matter is that
       if you don't challenge the notice to owner then you would end up
       with a charge certificate.
       I believe once the NTO goes out the amount will change to £130
       and the challenge button should re-appear, check the council
       website again at the end of next week.
       Unfortunately the law gives them six months to serve an NTO, so
       it's a bit of a waiting game.
       #Post#: 62218--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: runninghorse
       Date: March 12, 2025, 5:59 pm
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       Thanks a lot. I will check again in a week from now. Will I not
       risk that the fine goes up to £130 and even higher if I don’t
       pay before the date mentioned?
       #Post#: 62223--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: March 12, 2025, 7:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: runninghorse link ---
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       > Thanks a lot. I will check again in a week from now. Will I
       not risk that the fine goes up to £130 and even higher if I
       don’t pay before the date mentioned?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The penalty must go up to £130 in order for you to be able to
       make formal representations, that was always going to be the
       case.
       It can't go higher than that without you first having the
       opportunity to make representations, and representations put the
       penalty on hold. Even if the Notice to Owner is lost in the post
       you'll still be able to make representations online, so as long
       as you check the website once a week or so there isn't any real
       risk in pursuing this.
       #Post#: 64524--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: runninghorse
       Date: March 27, 2025, 2:38 pm
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       I would like to provide an update, as I just received the Notice
       to Owner in today's mail. Could someone advise what angle we
       could try in order to make a case?
       My apologies for the rather large pictures...I didn't manage to
       shrink the format!
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       #Post#: 64703--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: March 28, 2025, 7:11 pm
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       Do you have any evidence of your viewing appointment? Not that
       that will win you the case, but if we can use it to get a
       failure to consider that could be enough on its own.
       #Post#: 64721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN, City of Westminster, code 12r, 9 Cabbell Street 9
       Cabbell St, London NW1 5BA
   DIR By: runninghorse
       Date: March 29, 2025, 5:16 am
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       Yes, the appointment was confirmed by whatsapp
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