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Re: Islington Estate insufficient signage?
DIR By: EHRob
Date: February 17, 2025, 7:15 am
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Fantastic, will do - thanks so much for your expert advice
@Stamfordman
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Re: Islington Estate insufficient signage?
DIR By: EHRob
Date: February 17, 2025, 7:25 am
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Actually sorry, can I check one thing:
Code 81 says:
Parked in a restricted area in an off-street car park or housing
estate
It is a housing estate I was parked in.
Does that make a difference?
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Re: Islington Estate insufficient signage?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: February 19, 2025, 12:13 pm
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It's still an off-street contravention they've given you and
applies to estate car parks as well as public car parks.
I think they've got this wrong but others may chip in.
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Re: Islington Estate insufficient signage?
DIR By: EHRob
Date: February 25, 2025, 7:11 am
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Sadly my appeal was rejected. Below is their wording - any
thoughts?
We have considered the challenge you submitted and have found no
grounds for
cancellation of the penalty charge.
The PCN was issued as your vehicle was parked in a restricted
street in an off street car
park or housing estate.
We note your comments and understand that you have challenged
the issuance of the PCN
on the grounds that the contravention did not occur as there was
no signage to indicate that
you were parked within a restricted area. Whilst we appreciate
the circumstances described,
unfortunately they do not constitute sufficient grounds for the
cancellation of the penalty
charge.
Evidence obtained by the Civil Enforcement Officer (CEO),
attached above for your
reference, shows that the vehicle was parked within Girdlestone
Estate which is designated
as a restricted area. This is made clear from the literature
displayed at the entrance to
Girdlestone Park Estate. We are satisfied that the time plate
was clearly and correctly
displayed at the time in which the PCN was issued.
We would add that only estate permit holders are authorised to
park within the area and in
order to obtain dispensation against the restrictions pertaining
to the estate, drivers must
display their estate permits before leaving their vehicle
unattended. Furthermore, the CEO
attended the vehicle and recorded that no such permit was
displayed. In addition, the vehicle
was observed for a period of 9 minutes and 44 seconds before the
PCN was issued and the
driver was not seen. Therefore, the vehicle was parked in
contravention and the PCN was
issued correctly.
As we have found no grounds for the cancellation of the PCN and
are unable to apply any
exemption to it, we will be upholding the penalty charge.we
You should now choose one of the following options:
Pay the penalty charge. We will accept the discounted amount of
£65.00 in settlement of
this matter, provided it is received by 15 March 2025. After
that date, the full penalty charge
of £130.00 will be payable.
Or
Wait for a Notice to Owner (NtO) to be issued to the registered
keeper of the vehicle,
who is legally responsible for paying the penalty charge. Any
further correspondence
received prior to the NtO being issued may not be responded to.
The NtO gives the recipient the right to make formal
representations against the penalty
charge. If we reject those representations, there will be the
right of appeal to the
Environment and Traffic Adjudicator.
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Re: Islington Estate insufficient signage?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: February 25, 2025, 7:35 am
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This is the sign they are saying creates a restricted area in an
off-street car park. I say nonsense.
And this is supposed to be "literature displayed at the entrance
to Girdlestone Park Estate" - not exactly War and Peace is it.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/zOmY7aV.png
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