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#Post#: 7130--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: Neil B
Date: October 10, 2023, 10:44 am
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> Neil B - thanks for your draft letter of representation.
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> In terms of making this representation- do I respond as the a)
driver, b) keeper, or c) driver and keeper? (if it makes any
difference)
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I didn't write the draft cp8759 did but I agree with it.
The owner, taken to be the registered keeper, is liable and your
question just confuses matters.
#Post#: 7187--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: Norman83
Date: October 11, 2023, 7:48 am
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> [quote author=Norman83 link=topic=506.msg7124#msg7124
date=1696937859]
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> Neil B - thanks for your draft letter of representation.
>
> In terms of making this representation- do I respond as the a)
driver, b) keeper, or c) driver and keeper? (if it makes any
difference)
>
>
--- End Quote ---
I didn't write the draft cp8759 did but I agree with it.
The owner, taken to be the registered keeper, is liable and your
question just confuses matters.
[/quote]
Apologies CP8759, misread the responses.
I only asked the question as the representations form makes me
choose one of those options.
#Post#: 7188--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: Norman83
Date: October 11, 2023, 8:03 am
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OK I've submitted my challenge - fingers crossed for an easy
win, as you say Neil B.
Here is the screen I was given after submitting, if that's of
any use.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/UO5rEaI
Thanks again CP8759 for the draft, and everyone else for your
advice, I'll come back when they have responded.
#Post#: 8886--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: Norman83
Date: November 1, 2023, 6:18 am
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Hi all, OK I have now had a response from Hackney council, and
it's not the outcome I was hoping for.
They have not cancelled the PCN, claiming that the PCN was not
'out of time' as I had stated. They say they conducted a
pre-debt check after the Charge Certificate was sent to me,
which is when they were provided with my new address.
Please see here for their response.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/uFs8fHi
[member=1]cp8759[/member] [member=13]Neil B[/member] please let
me know your thoughts.
thanks
#Post#: 8891--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 1, 2023, 6:59 am
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That's an interesting one; I dont think I've ever seen this
before. They are saying that before they registered the debt
and sent out an Order for Recovery, they checked the address
again , and if a new one comes up, presumably with the same
keeper, they then send out a fresh PCN. They don't say, but
presumably cancel the Charge Certificate. I'm not sure they are
following due legal process, so hopefully CP8759, or Neil B know
more.
To re-check the keeper address they will have made a second
enquiry of the DVLA for the reg. number of the vehicle.
#Post#: 8953--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 1, 2023, 5:56 pm
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The PCN is out of time, there is no allowance in the law for any
sort of pre-debt check.
I am happy to represent you at the tribunal if you want to
appeal this.
#Post#: 9118--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: Norman83
Date: November 3, 2023, 1:48 pm
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Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member] , thanks for your offer.
How confident are you that we will win the appeal?
I'm very busy at the moment, quite a lot of stress in my work,
and while I'd absolutely like us to win this, I would not want
to be in a position of losing and having to pay more than the
'reduced' £65.
Also I have to ask myself if the time it would take to get this
appeal done, would 'cost' me more than £65 in time and stress.
Let me know your thoughts, thanks
#Post#: 9141--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 4, 2023, 6:30 am
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> Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member] , thanks for your offer.
>
> How confident are you that we will win the appeal?
>
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At least 90%.
This won't take you any time at all, you'll just have to send me
a couple of documents and I'll do everything else. I'll drop you
a PM
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=pm
with details of the next
steps, should you wish to proceed.
#Post#: 13435--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: January 7, 2024, 6:57 pm
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Outcome
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1V8VYLU8-oZtvDt0a0D38hUJKMrrWQYJP.
#Post#: 13440--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council - PCN for LTN 52m prohibition, Stoke
Newington Church St - Sent to old address
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 8, 2024, 3:39 am
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"well meaning" ? I don't think so !
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