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#Post#: 58461--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 17, 2025, 2:41 am
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Today is my last day when I attend two hearings in person. The
other two Musketeers are far more knowledgeable than I - even
though I am the oldest! They give me the easy cases. :D
#Post#: 58548--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Nik
Date: February 17, 2025, 8:43 am
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Sounds like you�re being modest. Older the wiser I believe! I
passed my car ownership to my dad, though he doesn�t drive now
and no longer has a license. Does it matter if I say I�m
appealing as the driver or as my dad (the owner and registered
keeper)? For the reason of appeal, should I select the alleged
contravention did not occur, or another option?
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Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 17, 2025, 4:01 pm
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The reg. keeper is liable so would need to authorise you to make
reps. on his behalf. A simple pdf will do. Contravention did not
occur.
parking.enforcement@harrow.gov.uk
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Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 17, 2025, 4:21 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> Today is my last day when I attend two hearings in person. The
other two Musketeers are far more knowledgeable than I - even
though I am the oldest! They give me the easy cases. :D
>
--- End Quote ---
Won the first and the second has been reserved. Had a most
pleasant chat with the Chief Adjudicator and one other
afterwards. I may take the violin on Wednesday and play Auld
Lang Syne, together with a doctor's note so I can attend all
future hearings in person. A staggered cure for my agoraphobia.
Attended with the flyer re my petition printed on my T shirt
and back of my jacket.
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899
Plus the hat with the camera sign on it.
Poor mrmustard on Wednesday. His round.
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Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Nik
Date: February 17, 2025, 4:59 pm
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Sounds like you enjoy it, good luck! Re your petition, there are
quite few other examples of unfair situations. For example,
motorists can receive a minimum of six points just for briefly
touching their phones while stationary at traffic lights, and
not even using it - based on loose camera evidence from passers
by - while driving under the influence of drink/drugs and
causing injury to another person carries a minimum of only three
points, and police and truck drivers are still allowed to touch
their radio controlled call devices. Seems like there�s a real
lack of consistency and balance.
#Post#: 58667--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Nik
Date: February 17, 2025, 5:52 pm
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I had already filed the appeal on their website before seeing
your reply, and so just selected I�m not the owner and gave my
details which it accepted without asking further details. Incase
they do ask, I have power of attorney for my dad.
#Post#: 66098--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Nik
Date: April 8, 2025, 8:03 am
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Hi. Hope you�re well!
They rejected the appeal saying the signs were lit up and there
are no legal obligations to have advanced warnings. See link
below for letter sent:
HTML https://1drv.ms/f/s!Agp91Qu4dZz6keUYorjMzYFMIpuiOw
Firstly, the signs aren�t clear, as so many people obviously get
caught out. Secondly, how do they expect you to reverse with
following traffic without advance warning. Finally, it�s
completely unreasonable to have to pay the higher amount if you
appeal again and it is still rejected.
Please can you advise on this, and if I appeal, how best to
complete the form re grounds of appeal - and what the chances of
success are. Surely, if others have won appeals on this ground
it sets legal precedent and they can�t simply uphold some
appeals and reject others?
Many thanks in advance!
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Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Nik
Date: April 11, 2025, 10:18 am
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Hi [member=24]Hippocrates[/member] and
[member=12]Incandescent[/member]. Hope you�re well. In case you
hadn�t had a chance to see my update re my appeal rejection, I
wondered if you could please give me your quick thoughts on this
today, as I have until today to decide to pay the lesser amount
or appeal further to take this to a hearing. Thank you in
advance!!
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Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: April 11, 2025, 11:54 am
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I'll PM you j
#Post#: 66731--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue PCN 33E
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: April 12, 2025, 7:38 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Not many contributors on here are so heroic as Mr Hippocrates,
but two others need mentioning that do offer to act as
representatives, Mr Mustard, and, of course, our esteemed
administrator, CP8759. All of these charge no fees, so act as
the lawyers say, pro bono, but may well ask for a charitable
contribution after a win, or some travel expenses. However,
you'd have to ask them. As most adjudications nowadays are
phone or (at the TPT) videos as well, there is no travel.
>
> Basically, like me, they are all completely fed up with the
venality and rapacity of councils and Transport for London who
are ruthlessly enforcing things that really have no traffic
management benefit whatsoever, but they get the money rolling
in. No doubt the heads of departments involved get substantial
bonuses every year too. It's been like this since 1991, so I
doubt it's going to be reformed any time soon.
>
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The video hearings cost me a fortune in Nivea. :D
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