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       #Post#: 59067--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: Andu_Alex
       Date: February 20, 2025, 12:34 pm
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       Hello everyone! Here I'm again with the response from the
       council.  As someone here suspected one PCN was cancelled and
       the other one not. The one with car impounded was not. I will
       attach their response.
       Really grateful for any suggestions for next steps.
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       #Post#: 59124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: February 20, 2025, 5:45 pm
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       Those letters are a joke and deserving of a complaint. Hard to
       believe they are admitting to acting before putting up signage.
       They say they warned you about missing/vandalised signs (did
       they?) - fair enough but they've not put the signs up!
       The accepted one makes no sense.
       First you'll need to register a tribunal hearing for the
       outstanding PCN and tow.
       Where are you parking now - they will put signs up and tow you
       again if you're not careful. Are they offering permits?
       #Post#: 59140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: Andu_Alex
       Date: February 21, 2025, 1:24 am
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       [member=2249]stamfordman[/member] , at the moment I park at my
       mother in law,  there are no signs even today, and never where
       since I've moved there.
       But anyway, I was able to make resident resident parking, I'm
       guessing that I will be fined again most certainly.
       They didn't warn me, even the cancelled PCN I didn't find it on
       my car, just recived the letter in post. I was unaware of that.
       I live in a council estate next to a school and I suspect maybe
       children played a joke and removed it from the car. They have a
       gathering spot very near the parking lots.
       Dare to ask, please, anyone aviable to help me further with the
       outstanding tow tribunal hearing thing?
       Thank you.
       #Post#: 59172--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: February 21, 2025, 6:43 am
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       I'll help you prepare the appeal but hopefully someone will
       offer to represent you.
       Seems to me by accepting one the other falls anyway although
       what they mean by 'important information about the case cannot
       be retrieved' looks like nonsense. But the rejection of the tow
       PCN opens them up to costs in my view.
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       #Post#: 59192--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: Neil B
       Date: February 21, 2025, 9:43 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > what they mean by 'important information about the case cannot
       be retrieved' looks like nonsense.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We've seen it before, recently, for another case they couldn't
       possibly win.
       It raises questions that indeed should be asked.
       I've just seen it again, in a thread by 'never paying', first
       page on here.
       #Post#: 59194--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: Neil B
       Date: February 21, 2025, 9:52 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > I'll help you prepare the appeal but hopefully someone will
       offer to represent you.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Current thinking is that you only need to register an appeal (do
       it online as it helps you keep track of it) Always ask for a
       peronal hearing, NOT a postal decision.
       Just say 'I rely on my formal representations and any other
       matters that may arise'.
       Then we just sit back and wait to see if they contest. If they
       do their case summary normally provides some extra ammunition.
       If they contest and you don't feel prepared you can always ask
       for a postponement.
       It's very unlikely I'll be available as I have imminent major
       surgery coming up.
       You might message cp8759 or Mr Mustard to see if either have
       space to help.
       #Post#: 59317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: February 22, 2025, 8:39 am
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       Here I am. I have history with Newham and vandalised signs.
       Please email the complete Notice of Rejection letter ( nothing
       hidden, I don't need the form) to mrmustard@ zoho.com
       #Post#: 59343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: February 22, 2025, 12:53 pm
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       The signs aren't vandalised - they turned these parts of the
       estate into a CPZ from PPAs and failed to put in yellow lines,
       bays and bay signs in keeping with a CPZ. They've victimised the
       OP as though it is all in order.
       Both rejections are tantamount to public malfeasance in my view.
       I'll be surprised if they dare to contest this.
       #Post#: 59562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: Andu_Alex
       Date: February 24, 2025, 3:24 pm
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       [member=13]Neil B[/member] , thank you so much for all your help
       and best of luck with surgery.  Hope you will be fine really
       soon.
       #Post#: 59563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No street parking signs, car impounded. 
   DIR By: Andu_Alex
       Date: February 24, 2025, 3:29 pm
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       [member=2249]stamfordman[/member] , nothing surprises me with
       newham council anymore. It is by far number one in given fines.
       :(
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