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#Post#: 57051--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: Neil B
Date: February 7, 2025, 3:34 am
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Ok.
It wasn't immediately clear that you needed someone to help with
it but I see now.
I'm at hospital today so I hope Stamfordman or others can help
you
#Post#: 57052--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: Neil B
Date: February 7, 2025, 3:40 am
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The relevant regulation re what I'm referring to is 11 (2) of
the reps and appeals regs, here >
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/576/part/4
Do you understand? You have told us that you have not been so
advised by Newham.
#Post#: 57053--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: Neil B
Date: February 7, 2025, 3:43 am
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John has correctly identified you deadline for reps for the
removed vehicle, 11th Feb, so we have the weekend to play with.
I've not read back to see the date of the other one with an NtO
#Post#: 57055--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: February 7, 2025, 3:49 am
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> I've not read back to see the date of the other one with an
NtO
>
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[member=13]Neil B[/member]
NtO issued 20th Jan.
#Post#: 57073--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: February 7, 2025, 7:00 am
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I've just been looking at this. Reps can be made for the PCN
resulting in the tow using the informal challenge page on
Newham's site so doesn't need a web code.
Newham will probably reject both and I can't at this stage think
of much to say in reps.
Anyone else?
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PCN/tow PN21618804
I am making representations against the PCN on two grounds.
1. The contravention did not occur. There are no parking signs
in the area of the estate where I regularly park. There is
nothing indicating anything other than unrestricted parking.
2. Procedural impropriety. On release of my car at the pound I
was not given information about my right to make representations
to the enforcement authority under section 11 (2) of the Civil
Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and
Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022.
On either of these grounds the PCN must be cancelled and the
money paid for the PCN and removal refunded.
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NTO PN21437184
The contravention did not occur. There are no parking signs in
the area of the estate where I regularly park. There is nothing
indicating anything other than unrestricted parking.
I look forward to your early confirmation of cancellation of
this PCN.
#Post#: 57096--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: February 7, 2025, 9:16 am
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1) Making reps online presumably has to be done against each
PCN? Cross reference the responses or wait till Tribunal?
2) Save the references to Newham's own website guidance (see my
Reply#12 on page 1 above) for the Tribunal?
#Post#: 57105--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: February 7, 2025, 10:10 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> 1) Making reps online presumably has to be done against each
PCN? Cross reference the responses or wait till Tribunal?
>
>
> 2) Save the references to Newham's own website guidance (see
my Reply#12 on page 1 above) for the Tribunal?
>
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I would make reps for each to be on the safe side.
There are parking bays and signs on the main part of Alynwick
Road as per the CPZ (Newham calls them resident parking zones
but they are CPZs).
What's happened is that the estate parts of the road were
covered by permit parking areas and then they took these out
leaving only patchy or no signage and now seem to think they are
properly covered by the CPZ.
#Post#: 57116--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 7, 2025, 11:38 am
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Looks OK to me.
#Post#: 57133--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: Andu_Alex
Date: February 7, 2025, 1:22 pm
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Thank you all so much for your help, I will make the
representation today and fingers crossed I will avoid court and
waste time.
As per your advice will make separate representations.
All the best!
#Post#: 57218--------------------------------------------------
Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
DIR By: Neil B
Date: February 8, 2025, 1:44 pm
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--- Quote from: Andu_Alex link ---
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> Thank you all so much for your help, I will make the
representation today and fingers crossed I will avoid court and
waste time.
> As per your advice will make separate representations.
> All the best!
>
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The tribunal, if we have to go that far, is NOT a court and
certainly not something to be feared.
If you get rejections then just make sure to show them here
before taking any action. If anyone here offers to represent you
they may prefer to register the case(s) at tribunal themselves.
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