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       Re: Birmingham CAZ PCN - U-turn mistake, appeal advice needed
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 7, 2025, 11:46 am
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       So the photos contradict what the OP has told us.  So OP can you
       please clarify how you turned round have turned into the road by
       mistake.
       As Bham seem now to be offering the discount, I think it is
       worthwhile submitting reps on a de minimis basis.
       #Post#: 57123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Birmingham CAZ PCN - U-turn mistake, appeal advice needed
   DIR By: Wajeh63
       Date: February 7, 2025, 12:29 pm
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       I accidentally took the wrong exit and turned into Frank Street,
       by mistake. Realizing it's  CAZ , I didn’t drive further into
       the zone. Instead, I immediately made a U-turn at the triangular
       island and rejoined my original route.
       Do you think this is a strong argument to appeal on a de minimis
       basis?
       #Post#: 57144--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Birmingham CAZ PCN - U-turn mistake, appeal advice needed
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: February 7, 2025, 2:26 pm
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       Whether by mistake or not is not the issue. You entered the CAZ,
       this is strict liability and they may hold you liable. As shown
       in the photos you fully passed the signs which are situated at
       the start of the road. Unless the authority's video shows that
       you turned immediately after entering the CAZ then you have no
       objective evidence to support your claim.
       They might exercise discretion, but if not then IMO you should
       think whether to risk the discount by going to tribunal on this
       point.
       #Post#: 57151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Birmingham CAZ PCN - U-turn mistake, appeal advice needed
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: February 7, 2025, 4:43 pm
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       my two peneth,
       collating the council pic with the gsv
       I would suggest that unless the OP urned around the idland and
       subsequently reversed back up the road, he clearly did  pass the
       sign and likely performed a 3 point/u in the entrances directly
       in front of the cameras.
       #Post#: 57176--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Birmingham CAZ PCN - U-turn mistake, appeal advice needed
   DIR By: Wajeh63
       Date: February 8, 2025, 7:42 am
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       So, Best option for me here is to wait untill 13th day and If no
       response came from Council(as it's likely).
       I'll simply pay the Discounted fine and get rid of issue.
       Otherwise, it's gonna be long wait and argument with Council and
       Tribunal and in the end if they Reject my appeal. Still need to
       pay double fine.
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