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       #Post#: 56741--------------------------------------------------
       Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: Dumbum
       Date: February 5, 2025, 9:09 am
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       Hi.  I think I'm bang to rights on this one but hoping to be
       told otherwise.
       Many thanks in advance.
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       #Post#: 56747--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 5, 2025, 9:24 am
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       Please post a link to the exact location, please.
       Here's a view of New North Road: -
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/aisNhupLo67z6AjG8
       We need a link like this, but for the exact location. If you go
       to the street view, then look at the black square top left,
       you'll see three dots. Click on this for the menu and select
       "Share or embed image". On the box titled "Share" click on 'Copy
       Link'. You can then paste it into your post.
       #Post#: 56750--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: Dumbum
       Date: February 5, 2025, 9:31 am
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       > Please post a link to the exact location, please.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks.
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       #Post#: 56805--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 5, 2025, 3:55 pm
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       OK, so here is the sign that tells you, (and us), that it is a
       restricted bus stop. If the sign wasn't there they couldn't
       enforce it.
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/9zBfgbf6MbyGFk9MA
       Video shows you already in the bus stop area, backing up and
       stopping. Anything more you can tell us about why you parked
       there ?
       Edit
       GSV link added.I forgot when I posted.  A senior moment !!
       #Post#: 56809--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: February 5, 2025, 4:35 pm
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       Is the sign in the video? Do they have a VCA certificate for the
       camera?
       #Post#: 56814--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 5, 2025, 5:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       > Is the sign in the video? Do they have a VCA certificate for
       the camera?
       >
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       I doubt the sign is in the video, as the cameras are here: -
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/398pe5EbsAPQoNm7A
       Video shows the car from above.
       As for the VCA certificate, I don't know. Does one only find out
       at London Tribunals ?
       #Post#: 56827--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: February 6, 2025, 3:10 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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       > [quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=4992.msg56809#msg56809
       date=1738794910]
       > Is the sign in the video? Do they have a VCA certificate for
       the camera?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I doubt the sign is in the video, as the cameras are here: -
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/398pe5EbsAPQoNm7A
       Video shows the car from above.
       As for the VCA certificate, I don't know. Does one only find out
       at London Tribunals ?
       [/quote]
       Won a case v Kingston Monday because they did not provide the
       certificate. Neither did they provide a picture of the sign
       which was knackered in any event - sunburn.
       #Post#: 57056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: Dumbum
       Date: February 7, 2025, 3:59 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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       >
       > Video shows you already in the bus stop area, backing up and
       stopping. Anything more you can tell us about why you parked
       there ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm afraid I was just dropping someone off to go into the shop
       there (and waited for her).  My bad entirely.
       #Post#: 57057--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: Dumbum
       Date: February 7, 2025, 4:06 am
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       > Won a case v Kingston Monday because they did not provide the
       certificate. Neither did they provide a picture of the sign
       which was knackered in any event - sunburn.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's interesting, well done.
       Much chance of success in this case?
       Can I request the certificate as "representations" or is there a
       different procedure?
       TIA
       #Post#: 57065--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge.  Stopped on bus stop. New North Road Hainault
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: February 7, 2025, 5:27 am
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       So:
       1. Go to their website and screenshot and tick all the hoops.
       2. I challenge as follows.
       There is no evidence of an upright sign in the video.
       I put you to strict proof that the camera used to capture the
       alleged contravention has the correct approval.
       I also request the name of the camera.
       I make this collateral challenge in that your website fetters
       discretion because of all the boxes with grounds which must be
       ticked even before I can make a formal representation. This is
       surely wholly prejudicial.
       In light of the above, please cancel.
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