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#Post#: 7442--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: summer day
Date: October 14, 2023, 11:03 am
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I live in the north east so getting down there to take more
photos will not be possible. Yes, I want to argue that it is not
footway.
I've attached the backs of the pcn and NtO
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#Post#: 7450--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 14, 2023, 2:46 pm
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I live in the north east..
But you must have been there for a reason, visiting friends or
whatever? If not, why did you assume it was footway.
If you or someone else cannot get photos to support the argument
I suggested then I cannot help on this point. IMO, at some stage
you would need to bolster the argument with contemporaneous
evidence.
#Post#: 7568--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 16, 2023, 4:46 pm
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We have several members in London so maybe one of them can help?
If not, I'm in London on the 26th but I'm not entirely clear on
what HCA is looking for in terms of photos.
#Post#: 8257--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: summer day
Date: October 24, 2023, 3:48 am
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I've gone on to start the challenge a friend is taking the
photos today.
I've attached the options I have for my challenge, is it "my
vehicle was not outside of the bay", or "Any other reason"?
Either option takes me through to a page to register my
mitigating circumstances!
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#Post#: 8266--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 24, 2023, 5:15 am
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Where is the boundary between the footway and carriageway?
I suggest that this is shown by the signed parking places either
side of the location where the rear limits are marked by the
inlaid stones - if they are not so marked then they're not
marked at all and the parking places by default extend to the
gardens md there isn't a footway!
As the council has chosen to use this marking as the boundary
between the carriageway and footway then they cannot expect a
driver to think the opposite at the OP's location i.e. this
marking is behind the OP's car therefore they must be on the
carriageway.
#Post#: 8268--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: summer day
Date: October 24, 2023, 5:27 am
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Thanks, that's what I'll use, but which option do I select to
start representation
#Post#: 8599--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 28, 2023, 5:30 pm
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If you mean which ground of challenge, it would be that the
alleged contravention did not occur.
#Post#: 8601--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: summer day
Date: October 28, 2023, 5:33 pm
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Unfortunately that's not an option. I've selected other and
wrote the contravention didn't occur in the box
#Post#: 11075--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: summer day
Date: November 24, 2023, 5:28 am
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I've received the Notice of Rejection of Representation, I've
attached the pages, but there is also a few pages with my Right
to Appeal.
Their main point appears to be
--- Quote ---
> The reasons for our decision are set out below, along with the
options available to you at this stage.
>
> You state that you do not believe your vehicle was parked
causing an obstruction at the time the PCN was issued.
> Although you may believe this to be true, our Civil
Enforcement Officers (CEOs) act on behalf of the Council and as
such are trained to issue PCNs only when they witness a
violation of either, the Council's parking policy or the rules
of the Highway Code. Your vehicle was observed on the footway in
JOHN HARRISON WAY, obstructing access for authorised vehicles,
as shown on the image, taken from Google, below, where the
vehicle was parked in front of the removable bollards, which
would prevent permitted vehicles from accessing the dropped kerb
to get in or out.
--- End Quote ---
Any help with my appeal would be appreciated.
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#Post#: 11078--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich - Code 624 one or more wheels over footpath -
John Harrison Way
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 24, 2023, 5:40 am
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This is complete tosh.
--- Quote ---
> are trained to issue PCNs only when they witness a violation
of either, the Council's parking policy or the rules of the
Highway Code.
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Policy is not law, neither is the Highway Code. What muppets !
Whether tosh like this would get the PCN cancelled at London
Tribunals is another matter, of course.
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