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Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: Korting
Date: February 4, 2025, 4:07 am
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I've been very remis and failed to act on this, I can still
appeal but have to do it TODAY.
After I made the turn into Woodlands Park Road, it was too late
to stop as I'd have been obstructing traffic on the main road.
Any chance of formulating an appeal?
HTML https://imgur.com/a/uBN0JnU
HTML https://imgur.com/a/JZGYE7N
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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: February 4, 2025, 5:23 am
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Any chance of a GSV link to the location?
Left or Right turn into Woodlands Park Road?
Any advance warning signs?
Not sure if Haringey are re-offering discount in rejecting reps
made in discount period - others will know?
Any reason for missing signs?
There may be something wrong with PCN/website - others will
know.
Is video on Council website -please post here.
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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: Korting
Date: February 4, 2025, 5:41 am
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Google street view here: I was turning right into Woodlands Park
Avenue.
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5860767,-0.0935943,3a,90y,192.54h,56.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj0nXpLFwR4wCqjy5dsH0qw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D33.081716805426026%26panoid%3Dj0nXpLFwR4wCqjy5dsH0qw%26yaw%3D192.53752478148482!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyOS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 4, 2025, 6:20 am
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Advance sign here: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Vfv3XGZ9rsQSj2x97
I think sun on the sign means the GSV view doesn't show the
times so to confirm, we'd need up-to-date photo.
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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 4, 2025, 6:38 am
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The PCN is invalid and I am happy to represent you.
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The PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in which
the council may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty
Charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days
beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased
charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you a Charge
Certificate.”
The law states at Schedule 1 5:
1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the
penalty charge to which it relates is not paid before the end of
the relevant period, the enforcing authority may serve on that
person a statement (in this paragraph referred to as a “charge
certificate”) to the effect that the penalty charge in question
is increased by 50 per cent.
(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice
is the period of 28 days beginning—
(a)where no representations are made under paragraph 1 above,
with the date on which the penalty charge notice is served;
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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: Korting
Date: February 4, 2025, 5:30 pm
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I've submitted the following appeal:
[quote=]
I am appealing this on the basis that there is a Procedural
Impropriety.
The PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in which
the council may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty
Charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days
beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased
charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you a Charge
Certificate.” The law states at Schedule 1 5:
1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the
penalty charge to which it relates is not paid before the end of
the relevant period, the enforcing authority may serve on that
person a statement (in this paragraph referred to as a “charge
certificate”) to the effect that the penalty charge in question
is increased by 50 per cent.
(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice
is the period of 28 days beginning—
(a)where no representations are made under paragraph 1 above,
with the date on which the penalty charge notice is served;
This has been tested and heard by an adjudicator at London
Tribunals.
I refer to case ref no: 224038612A, PCN No: ZN12830954
The adjudicator found that the PCN was invalid and directed
Haringey Council to cancel the PCN.
That being the case, I consider that a) the Penalty exceeded the
amount to pay and that there has been a procedural impropriety.
I therefore submit that this PCN should be cancelled on the same
grounds and look forward to receiving your reply cancelling this
PCN. [/quote]
I also attached a copy of the adjudicators decision.
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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 5, 2025, 3:47 am
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That'll do nicely.
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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: Korting
Date: March 22, 2025, 5:57 pm
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I've had a reply from Haringey as in the pictures. I'm away for
a few days and probably wont be able to check posts.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/TUFdRfG
HTML https://imgur.com/a/Gij4TQC
HTML https://imgur.com/a/6MIVUHX
HTML https://imgur.com/a/RkHg9kN
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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: March 23, 2025, 6:26 am
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Tosh. I say Tribunal time. Happy to do this one.
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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 29, 2025, 9:22 am
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DNCed. ;D I will chase up why. They also issued a charge
certificate after the appeal had been filed and I had put them
on notice that I would be asking the adjudicator to direct them
to attend re other matters. Was due to be heard on 4th July.
More to follow.
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