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       #Post#: 56272--------------------------------------------------
       PCN - Redbridge Pedestrian Zone 
   DIR By: Fightback
       Date: February 2, 2025, 2:25 pm
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       Hi,
       I received a PCN for entering a PCN zone. The PCN zone begins
       from 2:15 which is when my car entered (around 40 seconds after
       the restriction starts)
       Is there any room for leeway or potential error with the timing
       on the camera?
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       #Post#: 56294--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Redbridge Pedestrian Zone 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 2, 2025, 5:59 pm
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       What a money-grubbing PCN ! Served for an alleged contravention
       at the exact time the restriction starts. Just how many clocks
       in a car are accurate to the second. In my opinion, this PCN
       fits into the de minimis category of contravention, but the
       council, ever greedy for your money, is likely to refuse all
       reps so you'd have to take them to London Tribunals.
       Location here: -
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       The restriction is after the last GSV view was taken, so if you
       need to submit reps on inadequate/missing signage then you need
       to do some legwork. GSV could do with some camera van work here
       too, as many streets here are totally uncovered.
       Did you know the restriction started at 14.15, and your car
       clock showed just before that, or were you totally unaware of
       the restriction, and missed the signs ?
       There may also be a 'technical' appeal argument unrelated to the
       alleged contravention. These can, and often do, win appeals on
       their own. This is because councils have to obey the law, just
       like you, so if they don't, they can't enforce.
       #Post#: 57079--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Redbridge Pedestrian Zone 
   DIR By: Fightback
       Date: February 7, 2025, 7:43 am
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       Just an update, the appeal was accepted.
       I appealed on the basis my clock showed it was not yet 2:15 and
       asked for principle of deminimis to be applied.
       I also quoted the other tribunal cases which have been discussed
       on this forum.
       Thanks for the help!
       #Post#: 57114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Redbridge Pedestrian Zone 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 7, 2025, 11:29 am
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       --- Quote from: Fightback link ---
       >
       > Just an update, the appeal was accepted.
       >
       > I appealed on the basis my clock showed it was not yet 2:15
       and asked for principle of deminimis to be applied.
       >
       > I also quoted the other tribunal cases which have been
       discussed on this forum.
       >
       > Thanks for the help!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Very well done ! We don't see this very often.
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