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PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: GnnK
Date: January 30, 2025, 6:56 pm
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Hi,
I was issued a PCN for parking in a bay without payment of the
parking charge and the car was towed. The details on the ticket
are 11u Parked without payment of the parking charge (electronic
payment).
I have a resident’s parking permit for the area, unfortunately
the spaces I usually park were all full and I ended up parking
in this space. Half of the spaces there were for resident’s
permit holders and a couple of spaces that are paid parking
spaces. I have moved into the area a month ago and didn’t notice
there were a mixture of paid and resident permit holder spaces.
It was a genuine mistake I made and should have looked at the
signs carefully, which turned out to be an expensive lesson for
me.
The car was given a PCN in the morning, around 11:45 when I went
to move it to a bay where I usually park the car and closer to
the flat I found the car was missing. After panicking for a few
minutes, I called the Walthamstow council and was told the car
was towed and is on the way to the pound and I should collect it
from there. I paid the charges of £240 and had my car released.
I have attached the PCN issued. Are there any grounds to appeal
these charges. Would appreciate any help.
Thank you
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#Post#: 55949--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 30, 2025, 7:36 pm
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I'm very surprised they towed the car away when you are a
resident and permit holder, and also merely for non-payment. A
PCN would have sufficed, so this is exceptionally venal and
rapacious treatment.
If there is any good news, it is that you have already now paid
all there is to pay, so it is a no-brainer to take this
rapacious council all the way to London Tribunals. If you win
you get all the money back although I doubt you'd get that, but
possibly the tow fees as this seems a disgracefully
disproportionate penalty for what is a minor parking error.
So your first step now is to submit representations stating,
essentially, what you have told us, and point out the the
penalty seems very disproportionate for a simple parking
mistake, bearing in mind you are a resident and a permit holder.
Post up their reply when you get it
#Post#: 55950--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: GnnK
Date: January 30, 2025, 7:48 pm
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Thank you [member=12]Incandescent[/member] for the reply. Can
you please point me where and how I can submit representations
as this is pretty much my first penalty notice albeit an
expensive one with the towing charges included and my first
experience of resident parking permits too.
#Post#: 55962--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 31, 2025, 4:13 am
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--- Quote from: GnnK link ---
>
> Thank you [member=12]Incandescent[/member] for the reply. Can
you please point me where and how I can submit representations
as this is pretty much my first penalty notice albeit an
expensive one with the towing charges included and my first
experience of resident parking permits too.
>
--- End Quote ---
This info should be on your PCN, or somewhere in the documents
given to you when you collected the car from the pound. It's
always best to submit your reps on-line.
#Post#: 55965--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 31, 2025, 4:27 am
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In the 2016 policy doc we have Waltham Forest strangely puts a
pay bay contravention as a top priority for removal.
I say strangely because all contraventions in pay bays are set
as a lower level less serious contravention (here £80 penalty
not £130).
This is a point to challenge.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/xHUJPvH.png
#Post#: 56548--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: GnnK
Date: February 4, 2025, 6:23 am
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I have been issued the attached PCN and details on how to make a
representation for parking contravention 11u. It was a genuine
mistake on my part where I thought all the bays were for
resident parking with permits which I do have for the area.
I don’t mind paying for the PCN as it was a mistake on my part
but feel the towing of the car was a bit too harsh specially
when I have recently moved to the area.
What option do I need to select for the CLamp/ Removal
Representation and is there an option to do this online or is it
only postal option to The Parking Control Office, PO Box 74924,
London E17 0UG
Or should I make the representation for the PCN too where there
is an online option at www.walthamforest.gov.uk/ocm.
What are the chances of having a positive outcome and the best
points to highlight in this situation. Sorry for repeating the
details as this is completely new to me and don’t want to send a
representation out by making some rookie mistakes.
Thank you all for your time
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Re: PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: GnnK
Date: February 4, 2025, 6:24 am
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Sorry added the PCN here as I was going over the limit in my
earlier message.
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Re: PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: February 4, 2025, 7:34 am
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Please post up a GSV link to where you were parked. And are
signs on GSV still current?
There are no photos on the Council website presumably because
you had to pay the PCN.
#Post#: 56565--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: GnnK
Date: February 4, 2025, 7:58 am
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The photos are available on the council website. It takes about
4-5mins for them to load as they have uploaded 104 photos on
there. Not sure if it is normal 😲
I will try to download a couple and attach them here.
#Post#: 56566--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 11u issued in Waltham Forest and the car towed.
DIR By: mickR
Date: February 4, 2025, 8:00 am
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104 photos ???
are you sure there aren't lots of copies?
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