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#Post#: 56251--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: unzippy
Date: February 2, 2025, 11:02 am
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--- Quote from: andy_foster link ---
>
> Yes, I missed those words, but the point remains. The sign
shown does not "state 'Free Parking'". It states, amongst other
things, that customers must enter their reg number to receive
free parking.
>
> "Free Parking" with capitalised initial letters would tend to
emphasise that parking was offered free of charge or condition.
Particularly if it was a stand-alone statement.
>
--- End Quote ---
Really?
"Free Parking" means you can park without coughing up any money,
whereas "free parking" you might have to pay for it?
#Post#: 56255--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: mickR
Date: February 2, 2025, 11:46 am
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but as Andy correctly says...it doesn't just state "free
parking"
it says you must enter your reg at the terminal to receive
90mins of free parking"
you cannot select the words from a sentence that suits your
narrative.
the sign also says "£90" are you saying you can get the money?
#Post#: 56259--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: February 2, 2025, 12:28 pm
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Capitalisation, other than at the beginning of sentences, or for
proper nouns (or other such exceptions that might exist)
generally either denotes a term of art, or illiteracy.
Posting in ALL CAPS, or italics, bold or underlining creates
emphasis.
If the sign advertised "FREE PARKING" or even the more legible
"Free Parking" as a stand-alone statement in big bold letters at
the top of the sign, it would be hard[er] to argue that it only
applied to paying customers.
There will almost certainly be case law that clarifies who is
and is not a customer, and under consumer law, ignoring (or
reflecting) the general rule of contra proferentem, ambiguity is
to be determined in favour of the consumer.
As regards the claim that capitalisation does not change the
meaning of words in English, as claimed by one of our more
prolific sh*t -posters, other than compliance with the rules of
grammar, perhaps he could tell us whether it matters whether the
word "capitonym" is spelled with a capital "C" or a lower case
"c". Not that I was questioning the meaning, but the implied
emphasis.
#Post#: 56280--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: unzippy
Date: February 2, 2025, 3:57 pm
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--- Quote from: mickR link ---
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>
> it says you must enter your reg at the terminal to receive
90mins of free parking"
>
>
--- End Quote ---
The point I'm trying to make is that it's not free if you need
to purchase something in order to get a receipt so that you can
enter your reg.
This is free parking as it doesn't require money to be spent:
--- Quote from: roythebus link ---
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> At my local Lidl in Ashford (Kent, for the sake of clarity,
the other Ashford is in surrey), a customer can either use a
scanned receipt and enter the VRM or just enter the VRM.
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 56283--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: February 2, 2025, 4:00 pm
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Free parking (in that there is no charge for parking) provided
certain other conditions are met isn’t necessarily incorrect.
The sign has to be read in context.
#Post#: 56286--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: mickR
Date: February 2, 2025, 4:05 pm
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--- Quote from: unzippy link ---
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> [quote author=mickR link=topic=4922.msg56255#msg56255
date=1738518360]
>
> it says you must enter your reg at the terminal to receive
90mins of free parking"
>
>
--- End Quote ---
The point I'm trying to make is that it's not free if you need
to purchase something in order to get a receipt so that you can
enter your reg.
This is free parking as it doesn't require money to be spent:
[/quote]
and what did the store manager say when you queried it with
them?
you did didn't you?
#Post#: 56440--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: unzippy
Date: February 3, 2025, 2:09 pm
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--- Quote from: mickR link ---
>
>
> and what did the store manager say when you queried it with
them?
> you did didn't you?
>
--- End Quote ---
Dunno if it was the store manager but the person I asked said
that they had a 10m in grace period before being charged. I
replied that the sign said there was a 90 minute period before
being charged. ;D
#Post#: 56441--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: unzippy
Date: February 3, 2025, 2:13 pm
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--- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
>
> Free parking (in that there is no charge for parking) provided
certain other conditions are met isn’t necessarily incorrect.
The sign has to be read in context.
>
--- End Quote ---
And when one of those 'conditions' involves spending money, so
that you to be allowed to park without incurring a charge?
#Post#: 56452--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: mickR
Date: February 3, 2025, 3:33 pm
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--- Quote from: unzippy link ---
>
> [quote author=mickR link=topic=4922.msg56286#msg56286
date=1738533957]
>
> and what did the store manager say when you queried it with
them?
> you did didn't you?
>
--- End Quote ---
Dunno if it was the store manager but the person I asked said
that they had a 10m in grace period before being charged. I
replied that the sign said there was a 90 minute period before
being charged. ;D
[/quote]
NO. ... about your issue with having to provide a receipt to
enter your VRM.
#Post#: 56466--------------------------------------------------
Re: Incorrect signage?
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: February 3, 2025, 4:12 pm
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--- Quote from: unzippy link ---
>
> [quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=4922.msg56283#msg56283
date=1738533628]
> Free parking (in that there is no charge for parking) provided
certain other conditions are met isn’t necessarily incorrect.
The sign has to be read in context.
>
--- End Quote ---
And when one of those 'conditions' involves spending money, so
that you to be allowed to park without incurring a charge?
[/quote]
Have you been charged for the parking?
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