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Liverpool Council PCN
DIR By: owens_2k
Date: January 30, 2025, 8:33 am
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Hi,
A long shot this one.
Driver paid cash at machine and then stupidly forgot to actually
take the ticket out of it before leaving the area.
Also didn't tell me about it until after the 14 day discount
period!
Any grounds for appeal at all?
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Many thanks
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Re: Liverpool Council PCN
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 30, 2025, 10:47 am
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Post the PCN with no reductions as per:
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You may just have a plea that you did buy a ticket and they can
check machine logs but Liverpool is not a forgiving authority.
If the contravention had been parked without paying you'd have
stronger grounds but it's not displaying a valid ticket.
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Re: Liverpool Council PCN
DIR By: owens_2k
Date: January 31, 2025, 5:40 am
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> Post the PCN with no reductions as per:
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>
> You may just have a plea that you did buy a ticket and they
can check machine logs but Liverpool is not a forgiving
authority. If the contravention had been parked without paying
you'd have stronger grounds but it's not displaying a valid
ticket.
>
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Thanks for getting back to me. Problem is anyone could have come
and purchased tickets between this payment and the PCN being
issued
Might just be one I have to accept defeat on.
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Re: Liverpool Council PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 31, 2025, 6:24 am
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Did the parking ticket machine require entry of the vehicle reg
number ? If so there will be an audit trail, (or should be !!).
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Re: Liverpool Council PCN
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 31, 2025, 6:51 am
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If you post the PCN as asked we may be able to find something.
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Re: Liverpool Council PCN
DIR By: owens_2k
Date: January 31, 2025, 7:55 am
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> If you post the PCN as asked we may be able to find something.
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I have included the redacted parts now
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Re: Liverpool Council PCN
DIR By: owens_2k
Date: January 31, 2025, 7:57 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> Did the parking ticket machine require entry of the vehicle
reg number ? If so there will be an audit trail, (or should be
!!).
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Unfortunately it's one of those where you pay for a period of
time and just put the ticket/voucher on your dashboard.
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Re: Liverpool Council PCN
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 31, 2025, 9:22 am
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I think all you have is a polite ask that you did buy a ticket
and they could kindly check their records - do you have an idea
why you didn't put the ticket in your car?
The bay seems to have a parking sign although in 2022 the P was
covered by a sticker. The machine instructions are clear. Good
clear shots by the CEO.
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Re: Liverpool Council PCN
DIR By: owens_2k
Date: January 31, 2025, 11:10 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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> I think all you have is a polite ask that you did buy a ticket
and they could kindly check their records - do you have an idea
why you didn't put the ticket in your car?
>
> The bay seems to have a parking sign although in 2022 the P
was covered by a sticker. The machine instructions are clear.
Good clear shots by the CEO.
>
>
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I was told they inserted the money and pressed the button but
got distracted and completely forgot to take the ticket out the
machine. Then they just went on their way.
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