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#Post#: 55411--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: January 27, 2025, 1:09 pm
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> I rather stupidly forgot to send the correct drivers details
within the required timeframe.
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> I sent it just after the 14 days and I'm pretty sure it did
not get to the police in time.
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What is this "the 14 days" of which you speak?
#Post#: 55475--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: AM1994
Date: January 28, 2025, 2:23 am
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The offence was back in August. I sent the form off and forgot
about it and the next thing I received was the SJP pack with my
charge sheet etc. the above poster was correct the pack included
a copy of the original NIP that was sent to me.
I guess my next question is after pleading guilty can I ask for
leniency as I won't be able to afford to pay for insurance with
6 points and the insurance marker. I can barely pay it now
😂
#Post#: 55478--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: Freecall
Date: January 28, 2025, 2:43 am
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>
> I guess my next question is after pleading guilty can I ask
for leniency as I won't be able to afford to pay for insurance
with 6 points and the insurance marker. I can barely pay it now
😂
>
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Not for that reason but the fine will be based on your income so
it will automatically reflect your means. Also you will get a
1/3 discount for your early guilty plea.
#Post#: 55487--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: January 28, 2025, 3:42 am
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This is very difficult when we have to come back for each bit of
information.
What was the date of the offence?
When did you receive the NIP and request for driver's details?
What was its date?
When did you respond to it?
Did you keep a copy and get proof of posting?
#Post#: 55680--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: AM1994
Date: January 29, 2025, 12:32 am
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Sorry I seem to be getting ahead of myself and asking questions
without first giving all the information.
Offence occured on the 2/08/2024. I received the NIP on the
6/08/24. I gave the NIP to my wife and forgot about it. She
didn't fill anything out or send it so we were sent a reminder.
I decided to fill out the form this time and posted it. I did
photocopy the completed form but did not send it tracked which
was stupid but this was my first NIP I had ever posted. I can't
remember the exact dates of the reminder but it did state 10 or
14 days on it.
I'm now sitting here thinking if there is a way for me not to
get 6 points and the insurance marker on my name. I'm conflicted
whether to plead not guilty to both counts and have my day in
court. Or plead guilty for the failure to provide details and
ask for leniency as I genuinely did send the NIP odd but I have
no proof. Thank you again.
#Post#: 55681--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: January 29, 2025, 1:08 am
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You committed the offence when you failed to provide the
information within the original 28 days.
There is no provision within the statute for the police to
extend the 28 days, but they often allow you a second chance and
would not prosecute if you complied with that, as it would not
be cricket to do so.
The requirement is for the information to be served on them
(delivered). The second chance was for the information to be
served on them within the 14 days. Unless you are intending to
argue that the notice that you have already told us you posted
after the expiration of those 14 days was served on them within
the 14 days, and that they are lying about not receiving it, I'm
struggling to see what your defence is.
#Post#: 55704--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: January 29, 2025, 5:48 am
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In any case, if you are convicted of the s 172 offence the court
must endorse your licence with details of the conviction and six
points. The court could find that special reasons exist not to
endorse your licence with the points but nothing you have
suggested even comes close. In any case, you would still have to
declare the conviction to insurance companies.
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