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#Post#: 55334--------------------------------------------------
Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: AM1994
Date: January 27, 2025, 7:47 am
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Hi everyone
I rather stupidly forgot to send the correct drivers details
within the required timeframe. And have now been charged with
failure to identify and the original speeding offence.
I'm in a predicament and I'm not sure what to do. Previous
threads state plead guilty to the speeding offence and the
failure to identify is normally rescinded. However, as I was not
the driver there is no way for me to plead guilty to the
speeding offence to have the failure to identify dropped. FYI
the person speeding was my wife and she is insured on the
vehicle.
I wanted to know moving forward is there a way to nominate my
wife for the speeding offence and have the failure to identify
charge against me dropped or at least some way to avoid points.
I don't mind paying a one off fine of some sort. Thank you in
advance.
#Post#: 55337--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: January 27, 2025, 8:06 am
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--- Quote ---
> I wanted to know moving forward is there a way to nominate my
wife for the speeding offence and have the failure to identify
charge against me dropped or at least some way to avoid points.
--- End Quote ---
Not that I can think of.
Unfortunately you have already committed the FtP offence and
court proceedings have begun against you. The speeding charge is
a dead duck because the police do not know who was driving.
Unfortunately, apart from a hefty fine and a mandatory six
points, a conviction for the offence will leave you with an
endorsement code (MS90) which insurers hate and you will see a
considerable increase in your premiums.
Is there anything other than you "...rather stupidly forgot to
send the correct drivers details within the required timeframe"
on which you can elaborate.
#Post#: 55339--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: AM1994
Date: January 27, 2025, 8:11 am
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I sent it just after the 14 days and I'm pretty sure it did not
get to the police in time. I only asked about nominating my wife
now as in the documents I was sent a form to nominate the driver
if it wasn't me. So I'm basically screwed and it doesn't matter
whether I plead guilty or not guilty.
#Post#: 55340--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: AM1994
Date: January 27, 2025, 8:13 am
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I have a clean record and I'm a civil servant would this help my
case at all?
#Post#: 55346--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: FuzzyDuck
Date: January 27, 2025, 8:27 am
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--- Quote from: AM1994 link ---
>
> I have a clean record and I'm a civil servant would this help
my case at all?
>
--- End Quote ---
Nope, once found guilty of the S172 offence, sentencing will
follow the guidelines. Why would being a civil servant get you
any leeway?
#Post#: 55347--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: AM1994
Date: January 27, 2025, 8:31 am
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No idea I'm just clutching at straws. So there's essentially no
way for me to plead not guilty. Do you think I would get a
reduced sentence if I plead guilty and provide the drivers
details?
#Post#: 55352--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: 666
Date: January 27, 2025, 8:41 am
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--- Quote from: AM1994 link ---
>
> No idea I'm just clutching at straws. So there's essentially
no way for me to plead not guilty. Do you think I would get a
reduced sentence if I plead guilty and provide the drivers
details?
>
--- End Quote ---
A guilty plea will get you a 33%(?) discount on the fine, which
is worth having.
Naming the driver will achieve nothing.
#Post#: 55361--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: AM1994
Date: January 27, 2025, 8:52 am
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I understand there's not much I can do apart from plead guilty.
I only asked about nominating the driver at this stage because
the pack I was sent included a form to nominate the driver. And
I guess I can't try for a plea deal because I wasn't driving.
#Post#: 55377--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: FuzzyDuck
Date: January 27, 2025, 9:49 am
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--- Quote from: AM1994 link ---
>
> I only asked about nominating the driver at this stage because
the pack I was sent included a form to nominate the driver.
>
--- End Quote ---
That is there as part of the evidence pack, to show the court
that the appropriate form was sent to you. Filling it in know is
pointless.
#Post#: 55395--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJP Failure to identify + speeding. I was not the
driver.
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: January 27, 2025, 11:24 am
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> I sent it just after the 14 days
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It's 28 days actually. And how long ago was that? It is very
unusual for the police to prosecute for a response being a
little late. Are you sure they received it? How long ago was the
alleged speeding offence?
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> "...as in the documents I was sent a form to nominate the
driver if it wasn't me."
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What exactly is this form? Is it part of the SJP pack?
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