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#Post#: 55662--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 28, 2025, 4:29 pm
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I still think it's not good as should be an integral plate with
one arrow and they can't really pick and choose where to put a
road legend if they want to be consistent.
It came into force 21 June 2024.
HTML https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4646676
#Post#: 55667--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: January 28, 2025, 5:48 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=4860.msg55461#msg55461
date=1738020205]
> I must say I still don't get the signage - Mr I what do you
think the two plates pointing to the left convey?
>
--- End Quote ---
First plate restricts parking to motorcycles-only at all times
Second plate gives days and times when m/cs parking there must
have a permit, or pay to park.
[/quote]
Forgive me for asking what is probably a very stupid question,
but are you saying that only motorcycles can park to the left of
that sign?
So do you think the car parked in front of the OP's car is in
the motorcycle bay too?*
I ask because the notice in the London Gazette only refers to a
length of 5m - pretty much all of which will have been taken up
by the OP's Volvo.
If the motorcycle bay only extends for 5m to the left of that
pole, I don't think the sign conveys that very clearly. But
maybe I'm completely misunderstanding the situation?
*Of course you might say "Yes it is - and it probably got a
ticket too"...
#Post#: 55678--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 28, 2025, 6:38 pm
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--- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
>
> [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=4860.msg55464#msg55464
date=1738020952]
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=4860.msg55461#msg55461
date=1738020205]
> I must say I still don't get the signage - Mr I what do you
think the two plates pointing to the left convey?
>
--- End Quote ---
First plate restricts parking to motorcycles-only at all times
Second plate gives days and times when m/cs parking there must
have a permit, or pay to park.
[/quote]
Forgive me for asking what is probably a very stupid question,
but are you saying that only motorcycles can park to the left of
that sign?
So do you think the car parked in front of the OP's car is in
the motorcycle bay too?*
I ask because the notice in the London Gazette only refers to a
length of 5m - pretty much all of which will have been taken up
by the OP's Volvo.
If the motorcycle bay only extends for 5m to the left of that
pole, I don't think the sign conveys that very clearly. But
maybe I'm completely misunderstanding the situation?
*Of course you might say "Yes it is - and it probably got a
ticket too"...
[/quote]
The sign pointing to the left applies to the single marked bay.
Note the double lines perpendicular to the kerb That is a bay
boundary line. So M/C parking is only for that single bay.
#Post#: 55695--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 29, 2025, 4:25 am
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I'm going to repeat that it should be one plate with one arrow
and should have a road legend to be clear it is a shared use bay
only for m/cs.
#Post#: 56122--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: helpmeout25
Date: February 1, 2025, 6:57 am
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Thanks All, I appreciate the support here and have submitted an
appeal. Will let you know how I get on!
#Post#: 56142--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: February 1, 2025, 10:29 am
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What was your challenge? You should have posted a draft here
first.
#Post#: 56169--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 1, 2025, 3:19 pm
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?
The sign is unfathomable IMO.
If what's in the lower panel is supposed to apply to solo m/c
only then there shouldn't be a separating black line and there
isn't a restriction on a Sunday.
But if the bay is restricted on Sundays then the sign means solo
m/c only 24/7 but then what's the purpose of the hours in the
lower panel?
What's option three? Solo m/c 24/7 but shared use as per the
lower panel?
IMO, it is not solo m/c with permits otherwise what's intended
..solo m/c permit holders or P&D for the hours stated and then
any old m/c outside these hours and Sundays???
Can't wait to see the traffic order.
#Post#: 56180--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 1, 2025, 5:05 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> ?
> The sign is unfathomable IMO.
>
> If what's in the lower panel is supposed to apply to solo m/c
only then there shouldn't be a separating black line and there
isn't a restriction on a Sunday.
>
> But if the bay is restricted on Sundays then the sign means
solo m/c only 24/7 but then what's the purpose of the hours in
the lower panel?
>
> What's option three? Solo m/c 24/7 but shared use as per the
lower panel?
>
> IMO, it is not solo m/c with permits otherwise what's intended
..solo m/c permit holders or P&D for the hours stated and then
any old m/c outside these hours and Sundays???
>
>
> Can't wait to see the traffic order.
>
--- End Quote ---
Well, sorry to disagree, but the LH panels are as follows: -
top panel - M/C parking only at any time
bottom panel - Mon-Fri and Sat, at the times given, only permit
holder or those paying to park their M/cs can park. So Sunday is
all free for any M/c to park
#Post#: 56186--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 1, 2025, 6:28 pm
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The traffic order will reveal!
#Post#: 63497--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hackney Council, PCN for parking in a newly created
motorcycle bay.
DIR By: ozamaki
Date: March 20, 2025, 12:34 pm
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Did you hear back from council on this?
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