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       Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: antman40
       Date: June 18, 2023, 3:05 pm
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       Hello.
       I received two PCNs traveling in the same street late at night
       at different times, 4hrs 11mins apart from each other.
       I went back to the location yesterday evening at the same time
       to have a closer inspection of the street's layout. The street
       lighting on Station Parade was switched off this was the same on
       the evening I got recorded by the camera. As you can see in the
       attachments the lighting of the still images is very poor and
       the signs are unlit so I wouldn't have seen the signs displaying
       any traffic order or prohibition.
       As it was late at night after normal business trading hours and
       with fewer pedestrians around, vehicles should be permitted to
       use this street after a certain time i.e after 7-8pm.
       Any help in how to challenge these PCNs would be much
       appreciated.
       The link for each PCN is below:
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/15LqDf7Wd1X1fND3bC3lj1PiPxNVPwltT/view?usp=drivesdk
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/15U7aakqXo4pZmqatq-vyAAyjIclvyhw7/view?usp=drivesdk
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/UqJiYPPuiVZNJ9Mg8
       Thanks. x
       #Post#: 199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: June 18, 2023, 7:57 pm
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       Draft representation:
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       Dear London Borough of Barking and Dagenham,
       I challenge liability on the basis of inadequate signage. As the
       video footage shows, the street lights in the area were not
       working and the signs had no illumination. Having revisited the
       area, I note it's a very wide road and the signs would not have
       been in my direct line of sight.
       Furthermore, the Traffic Signs Regulations 2016 require signs of
       this type to be illuminated.
       On the whole the signage is not adequate within the meaning of
       regulation 18 of the The Local Authorities' Traffic Orders
       (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996.
       It follows that the contravention did not occur, and the PCN
       must be cancelled.
       Yours faithfully,
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       Make the representation online, you'll have to do it twice (once
       for each PCN). Keep a times / dated screenshot of the
       confirmation page.
       #Post#: 2091--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: antman40
       Date: July 29, 2023, 4:28 am
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       Hi.
       I've received a response from Barking and Dagenham council for
       the two PCNs. They have cancelled one and rejected the other.
       Seems quite odd that they would do this as both contraventions
       occured in the same street just a few hours apart.
       Can I still challenge the rejected appeal for one of the PCNs?
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       Re: Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: July 29, 2023, 2:56 pm
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       Yes you can, but first please post all the pages of the Notice
       of Rejection. You won't have enough upload space, so please see
       the guide here on how to upload more images:
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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       Re: Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: antman40
       Date: July 30, 2023, 7:58 am
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       Hello.
       All pages of Notice of Rejection and Notice of Appeal have been
       uploaded.
       There's a link below too for all the pages.
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/XyceY4d
  HTML https://goo.gl/maps/yWDX1t7GF22G6uq66
       Regards
       Antman40
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       Re: Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: July 31, 2023, 9:53 am
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       You certainly have arguable grounds to carry on, and it's more
       likely than not that I could win this appeal, but obviously we
       cannot guarantee the outcome. With that in mind, would you like
       me to represent you at the tribunal?
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       Re: Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: antman40
       Date: July 31, 2023, 12:23 pm
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       Yes. It's unfair that the council can do this and I think I
       should pay for one and not the other when it's the same
       contravention.
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       Re: Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: August 2, 2023, 12:11 pm
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       I have sent you a PM.
       #Post#: 7112--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: October 10, 2023, 4:07 am
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       Outcome
  HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1Xv8tL4DzjECpKX7AjbKOQ_ZbMsc5CveZ.
       #Post#: 7125--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contravention code 52M
   DIR By: antman40
       Date: October 10, 2023, 7:26 am
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       Thank so so much for this.  :)
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