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       #Post#: 68455--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: April 24, 2025, 9:01 am
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       Keep checking with TEC - say again in 2 weeks. You don't want to
       miss the order for recovery and you don't need it to file a
       statutory declaration that you didn't get the rejection, only
       that you know it's been raised.
       #Post#: 68567--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: traz
       Date: April 25, 2025, 4:31 am
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       okay thanks. I'll check again next week. Would it be okay if
       someone can explain a little bit on what's happening.
       So I'm waiting for the order of recovery to be registered with
       the TEC and then I will file a PE3 stating I did not receive the
       notice of rejection. Is that right?
       #Post#: 68583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: Neil B
       Date: April 25, 2025, 5:18 am
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       --- Quote from: traz link ---
       >
       > okay thanks. I'll check again next week. Would it be okay if
       someone can explain a little bit on what's happening.
       > So I'm waiting for the order of recovery to be registered with
       the TEC and then I will file a PE3 stating I did not receive the
       notice of rejection. Is that right?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
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       #Post#: 69085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: traz
       Date: April 28, 2025, 2:24 pm
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       Received another letter from Marston Recovery today. This is the
       third letter.
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 69112--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: April 28, 2025, 5:12 pm
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       Please post the others.
       These letters would seem to my eye to be illegal intimidation.
       Certainly they are outside the legal process. We have seen this
       sort of thing before from other London councils who clearly see
       it as a clever wheeze to get the money in and avoid the Traffic
       Enforcement Centre process. Many people will be scared and
       pay-up, which is what they want.
       The bottom line is that no debt exists until the PCN is
       registered at TEC.
       #Post#: 69116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: Neil B
       Date: April 28, 2025, 5:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > Please post the others.
       > These letters would seem to my eye to be illegal intimidation.
       Certainly they are outside the legal process. We have seen this
       sort of thing before from other London councils who clearly see
       it as a clever wheeze to get the money in and avoid the Traffic
       Enforcement Centre process. Many people will be scared and
       pay-up, which is what they want.
       >
       > The bottom line is that no debt exists until the PCN is
       registered at TEC.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
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       #Post#: 69293--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: traz
       Date: April 29, 2025, 4:05 pm
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       These are the three letters sent from Marston Recovery.
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 69299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: April 29, 2025, 4:20 pm
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       These letters are shameful and a blot on the reputation of City
       of Westminster, because no debt exist until the PCN is
       registered at the Traffic Enforcement Centre so to say a sum of
       money is owing is deeply mendacious. Letters like this have been
       seen on this forum before with a couple of other London
       councils, and also on the old Pepipoo site.
       My view is that it is unlawful intimidation and this needs to
       get in front of an adjudicator. I would go further and call it
       malfeasance and the person who authorised such letters should
       now be in jail, but I admit I am a bit of a 'hanging judge' in
       these matters !
       I reiterate; these letters are totally outside the enforcement
       process defined in law.
       #Post#: 69304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: April 29, 2025, 5:10 pm
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       We've seen councils sending their own letters chasing payment
       but I've not seen them outsourced to a bailiff. The letters
       should of course set out reasons why the charge certificate can
       be ignored and payment not made.
       #Post#: 75577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: City of Westminster - failing to drive in the direction show
       (32 d) 
   DIR By: traz
       Date: June 9, 2025, 12:05 pm
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       I have finally received the order for recovery. I assume the
       next step is to fill and send the PE3 form to TEC?
       [attachment deleted by admin]
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