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Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus lane
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: January 16, 2025, 3:01 am
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Hiya, I received a letter from Reading Borough Council date 2nd
January 2025,
HTML https://imgur.com/a/Q4iYDv0
HTML https://imgur.com/a/Q4iYDv0
said my vehicle entered the bus lane in St Marys Butts on 27th
October 2024,
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/HFJGzCtwrZMNM2489
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/HFJGzCtwrZMNM2489
it mentioned a PCN/NoO & Charge Cert were sent to me before,
but the fact is I haven't receive any of these.
I searched through FTLA to see if there's any similar post and
got some thoughts,
but I'm not sure which one would be the best option to go for.
1. request a 50% discount to paid
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lambeth-code-34j-being-in-a-bus-lane-clapham-park-road-the-notorious-bus-lane-st/
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lambeth-code-34j-being-in-a-bus-lane-clapham-park-road-the-notorious-bus-lane-st/
2. challenge the VCA certificate
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/camden-pcn-for-using-bus-lane-can-i-appeal/
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/camden-pcn-for-using-bus-lane-can-i-appeal/
3. challenge defective document
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/reading-bus-lane-pcn-626/15/
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/reading-bus-lane-pcn-626/15/
Would love to heard any advisory, cheers
#Post#: 53577--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus
lane
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: January 16, 2025, 4:29 am
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You are running ahead of yourself: at the moment you need to get
into a postion where you are able to challenge the original PCN.
The process is explained here
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-pcn/
Follow the process as explained there. Keep within the timescale
and the PCN will be re-issued and then you can make reps.
Miss the deadlines and it gets very messy.
Reading's letter is out-of-process, but without it you would not
have known about the PCN.
Needless to say, they don't tell you about the reset process,
but demand payment immediately.
Any reason why your mail (PCN & charge cert.) may have gone
astray?
#Post#: 53609--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus
lane
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 16, 2025, 6:25 am
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In cases where both a postal PCN and a Charge Certificate have
gone astray, we always ask you to check the name and address on
your V5C Registration Certificate. Is the address correct in all
details and the same as the letter you have received ?
#Post#: 53650--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus
lane
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: January 16, 2025, 9:12 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> You are running ahead of yourself: at the moment you need to
get into a postion where you are able to challenge the original
PCN.
>
> The process is explained here
>
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-pcn/
>
> Follow the process as explained there. Keep within the
timescale and the PCN will be re-issued and then you can make
reps.
> Miss the deadlines and it gets very messy.
>
> Reading's letter is out-of-process, but without it you would
not have known about the PCN.
> Needless to say, they don't tell you about the reset process,
but demand payment immediately.
>
> Any reason why your mail (PCN & charge cert.) may have gone
astray?
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks John, I just followed the steps in the link you provided,
TEC said they haven't got my PCN in the system atm and advise me
could call the council to discuss.
Should I reach the council or just keep calling again in every 7
days until its in their system. Cheers.
My address is a terraced house near university area with 3
individual flats in it,
we haven't got any postbox but letter plates on the front door.
We shared the front door & hallway, sometimes even the front was
not knocked,
anybody could easily just walk in and grab any letters or
parcel,
even the front door knocked, landlord & properties agents got
spare keys to access.
I guess thats the reasons.
#Post#: 53653--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus
lane
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: January 16, 2025, 9:19 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> In cases where both a postal PCN and a Charge Certificate have
gone astray, we always ask you to check the name and address on
your V5C Registration Certificate. Is the address correct in all
details and the same as the letter you have received ?
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for asking, the address is absolutely correct, the
surmise for letters gone astray was in #4. Cheers.
#Post#: 53660--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus
lane
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: January 16, 2025, 9:57 am
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> Should I reach the council or just keep calling again in every
7 days until its in their system.
--- End Quote ---
Keep calling TEC
Check the status and amount due on whatever part of Reading's
system you found the screenshot in your opening post and report
here straighhtaway any changes.
#Post#: 53671--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus
lane
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: January 16, 2025, 10:40 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> [quote]Should I reach the council or just keep calling again
in every 7 days until its in their system.
--- End Quote ---
Keep calling TEC
Check the status and amount due on whatever part of Reading's
system you found the screenshot in your opening post and report
here straighhtaway any changes.
[/quote]
Cheers John
#Post#: 64267--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus
lane
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: March 26, 2025, 12:44 pm
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> [quote]Should I reach the council or just keep calling again
in every 7 days until its in their system.
--- End Quote ---
Keep calling TEC
Check the status and amount due on whatever part of Reading's
system you found the screenshot in your opening post and report
here straighhtaway any changes.
[/quote]
Hi John, TEC got the PCN in their system on 13th February 2025
and I submitted the TE9 on 17th February 2025,
then I got the original PCN date 4th March 2025 yesterday as I
not at home last 3 weeks
HTML https://imgur.com/a/VMSoWCf
HTML https://imgur.com/a/VMSoWCf
I think I missed the chance for 50% off w/in the 21 days
Would like to ask should I pay the £70 or make a representation,
thanks
#Post#: 65046--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus
lane
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 31, 2025, 1:44 pm
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Well if you make a representation now and they reject it the
penalty will still be £70, so you might as well give it a go.
With Reading we usually manage to come up with something but as
we're short on time, you might just have to put in a
representation saying that the alleged contravention did not
occur and leave it at that. The key thing is to make sure
something is submitted before midnight on 2 April, send the
representation online and take a timed / dated screenshot of the
confirmation page.
#Post#: 68176--------------------------------------------------
Re: Reading Borough Council - PCN - St Marys Butts (34j) Bus
lane
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: April 23, 2025, 1:12 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> Well if you make a representation now and they reject it the
penalty will still be £70, so you might as well give it a go.
With Reading we usually manage to come up with something but as
we're short on time, you might just have to put in a
representation saying that the alleged contravention did not
occur and leave it at that. The key thing is to make sure
something is submitted before midnight on 2 April, send the
representation online and take a timed / dated screenshot of the
confirmation page.
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi cp8759, hope you had a happy holiday last weekend
I did made a representation on 31st March said the alleged
contravention did not occur
They've replied and rejected via letter
HTML https://imgur.com/a/ENmOev3
HTML https://imgur.com/a/ENmOev3
Please advise is there further action could be done or should I
just pay the £70 w/in 28 days
Cheers
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