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#Post#: 61477--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: March 9, 2025, 12:26 pm
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--- Quote from: Mike_D link ---
>
> Hello guys!
> . . .
> What do I do now?
> Should I wait for the NTO (I am not the owner, my wife is, and
we have different surnames) or should I go directly to the
London Tribunals (on my own behalf)?
>
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Only the owner (or the owner's nom,inated representative) can go
to tribunal after their reps against the NtO have been rejected
by the Council.
Please show us a copy of what was written to the Council, so we
can see how well it was considered by the Council.
#Post#: 61710--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: Mike_D
Date: March 10, 2025, 1:10 pm
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Hi John,
As I was advised above, I went with the wrong contravention
approach:
I appealed online (as the driver) and the wording was something
like:
I have received a PCN for an alleged contravention of parking
“with one or more wheels on a footpath”, code 62 (an on-street
contravention).
The alleged on-street contravention of footway parking cannot
have occurred as my car was parked in Market Place, one of your
off-street car parks:
HTML https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4681461.
I look forward to your early confirmation of cancellation.
#Post#: 61711--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 10, 2025, 1:47 pm
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They've ignored the challenge, which is a failure to consider,
and fobbed you off with a template that is sent to anyone with
footway parking.
As Havering don't offer the discount on rejection, just wait for
the NTO but check the V5C logbook address is correct.
#Post#: 62154--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: Mike_D
Date: March 12, 2025, 12:58 pm
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OK, I'll get back here when the NTO comes.
Cheers!
#Post#: 62184--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 12, 2025, 3:57 pm
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Use the intervening time wisely.
Get hold of a copy of the order under which Market Place is
treated as a car park.
Worst case, your offside front wheel was partially on a road
other than a carriageway. In which case, IMO de minimis should
be your focus.
If where this wheel was is part of the car park then as a car
park cannot be a highway or road then the contravention did not
occur.
And as for 'by making an informal challenge you have waived your
right to pay the discounted charge', nail their ******* feet to
the floor. Paying the discount is a statutory right within the
14-day discount period. Therefore the only legitimate reason for
you not being entitled to the discount is that the authority
failed to respond within the 14-day period.
#Post#: 67842--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: Mike_D
Date: April 20, 2025, 8:17 am
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Guys, I have received the NtO.
Is is dated 07/04/2025, but we were out for holidays and we came
back just yesterday - it must have come just after we left.
28 days after the date of issue will be on 05/05/2025.
Here it is: LINK
[attachmini=1]
What do I do know?
Should I (officially - my wife as the Owner) make
representations to the Havering Council now, as stated in the
NtO, or go directly to the London Tribunals?
How does it work? You know I am a virging at this ;)
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#Post#: 67843--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: April 20, 2025, 8:29 am
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I agree with Stamfordman that his draft is fine. I have done a
PCN or two at this location.
The alleged on-street contravention of footway parking cannot
have occurred as my car was parked in Market Place, one of your
off-street car parks.
As the PCN was issued in error I look forward to your early
confirmation of cancellation.
Do not add anything else.
The representations must be in the same name as on the Notice to
Owner.
I am available to be your free tribunal representative if you
get rejected.
#Post#: 67845--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: April 20, 2025, 8:52 am
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Reps should be submitted no later than 6 May.
(Issued 7 Apr; Deemed served 9 Apr, which is day 1; Day 28 will
be 6 May).
#Post#: 67994--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: Mike_D
Date: April 22, 2025, 4:07 am
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--- Quote from: mrmustard link ---
>
> I agree with Stamfordman that his draft is fine. I have done a
PCN or two at this location.
>
> The alleged on-street contravention of footway parking cannot
have occurred as my car was parked in Market Place, one of your
off-street car parks.
>
> As the PCN was issued in error I look forward to your early
confirmation of cancellation.
>
> Do not add anything else.
>
> The representations must be in the same name as on the Notice
to Owner.
>
> I am available to be your free tribunal representative if you
get rejected.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks, mate!
I will do so, but won't they just answer the same way they did
rejecting my informal appeal?[attachimg=1]
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#Post#: 67997--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: April 22, 2025, 4:11 am
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You are trying to jump your fences early and have no idea what
form the fence will take or even if there is going to be one
there at all.
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