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#Post#: 53265--------------------------------------------------
Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain
types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: hussainash
Date: January 14, 2025, 6:02 am
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Hello everyone,
I use to use the pepipoo with great success and was sad to see
it close.
I just received a PCN from Hammersmith & Fulham council for:
Contravention Description: Failing to comply with a prohibition
on certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
Location: Imperial Rd NWbnd - NW of Fulmead St
I did a search on this site and couldnt see many matches for the
above PCN, which I was suprised about as I feel that this could
be a common issue with a lot of drivers.
My reason for driving on this road was that I took my children
to the Soft Play nearby (Gambado Chelsea, 7 Station Court,
Townmead Road, SW6 2PY) and when I entered Imperial Road from
the roundabout I did no see any signs of restrictions, i was
surprised to receive the PCN through the post.
I'm not from the area so not familiar with the roads and
restrictions.
Do I have any reasonable ground to appeal?
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Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: January 14, 2025, 6:24 am
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From this map you van see the camera which caught you and the
extent of the LTN
HTML https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/clean-air-neighbourhoods/south-fulham-clean-air-neighbourhood
At what point did you enter the green area? That is where the
signs should be located.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/jCZvgXLrrNjvHrST8
The signage at the roundabout imperial Road/Townmead Road
junction is here
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/oKyErcHhT5ouiZ786
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Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: hussainash
Date: January 14, 2025, 6:31 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> From this map you van see the camera which caught you and the
extent of the LTN
>
HTML https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/clean-air-neighbourhoods/south-fulham-clean-air-neighbourhood
>
> At what point did you enter the green area? That is where the
signs should be located.
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/jCZvgXLrrNjvHrST8
>
> The signage at the roundabout imperial Road/Townmead Road
junction is here
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/oKyErcHhT5ouiZ786
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks John for your reply.
I took this route :
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/VHAvK2NvyFWuy15X6
I just noticed the sign for Imperial Road from your 3rd link, I
feel it is a bit sneaky to put it there rather than the entrance
of Imperial Road i.e I took a right on that roundabout from your
3rd screenshot.
The roads looks so normal and I must have been concentrating
more on the satnav rather the the signage and I honestly missed
all the signs.
#Post#: 53327--------------------------------------------------
Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 14, 2025, 12:35 pm
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H&F has a record of cancelling first time contraventions here
especially if you were accessing a local facility.
A polite ask should probably get this cancelled. But did you go
back through the restriction the other way?
On the old forum I helped someone get four PCNs cancelled for
going to and fro I think the same soft play place.
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Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: hussainash
Date: January 15, 2025, 5:25 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> H&F has a record of cancelling first time contraventions here
especially if you were accessing a local facility.
>
> A polite ask should probably get this cancelled. But did you
go back through the restriction the other way?
>
> On the old forum I helped someone get four PCNs cancelled for
going to and fro I think the same soft play place.
>
--- End Quote ---
I will draft up a polite request for this to be cancelled not
had much success in the past when I have done it.
I must have taken the route via Townmead Road from Wandworth
bridge which I believe doesn't have any restriction. The road
look similar from the roundabout near the soft play center.
A few things that have come to my mind:
1) When approaching Imperial Road from Townmead Road (coming
from Wandsworth Bridge) - the Signage is so much more clear as
they have a restriction map of the road and roundabout - see
screenshot but when coming from the other side of the roundabout
there is no such sign.
2) From the north side Townmead Road (coming from imperial
wharf) There is no placement of a restriction sign on the
ENTRANCE of Imperial road, rather it is on the Townmead Road so
for people not familiar with the road it seems that Imperial
Road is straight ahead (see 2nd Screenshot)
I'm not sure if i've explained the above two points clearly.
[member=2249]stamfordman[/member] - how can I see your old posts
from the previous sites - are there any archived copies
available - thank you?
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Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: January 15, 2025, 6:06 am
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You are right in that Townmead Road is freely accessible, but
every turning north of Townmead has warning signs about No
Through Road to New Kings Road
In Imperial Road you would have passed these signs :(
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/1RQmVdJAeEpqjrwA8
Perhaps a polite letter asking for mercy?
Post a draft here first, but do not miss deadline.
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Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 15, 2025, 7:09 am
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H&F has cancelled every one of these first time PCNs in low
traffic zones I've been involved with and they are relaxed about
say PHV drivers accessing local addresses. Or they have been.
No, there isn't an archive of Pepipoo (old forum) I think.
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Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: hussainash
Date: January 16, 2025, 5:27 am
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Here is the video from the h&f website (Attached below). The
signs here are clear :(
I still don't know why i missed it. Maybe I got distracted by
the car turning in on my left or the traffic light having a
slight hump.[attach=2]
I'm still drafting a reply and will post this shortly...
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Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: hussainash
Date: January 16, 2025, 6:47 am
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Here is my draft, any comments or suggestions for improvement?
Anything I should not mention? (Thank you in advance)
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Hammersmith and Fulham Council
Parking Services
Subject: Challenge Against PCN HZXXXXX
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to formally challenge the Parking Charge Notice
(PCN) referenced above, issued to my vehicle (registration
number FEXXXXX) on 22/12/2024 for allegedly failing to comply
with a prohibition on certain types of vehicles at Imperial Rd
NWbnd - NW of Fulmead St.
I kindly request that you review my case, as I was unaware of
the Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) restrictions in the area. I
am not local to the borough and was visiting the area during the
school Christmas holidays to take my children to the Gambado
Chelsea soft play center. I have attached receipts from Gambado
as evidence of my visit.
At the time, I did not see any signs indicating the
restrictions. Had I been aware of the LTN or seen clear signage,
I would have avoided entering Imperial Road entirely.
Additionally, I did not take a shortcut to avoid traffic, as the
roads were quiet due to the holiday season.
This is my first PCN for this area and road, and I sincerely
apologise for this inadvertent mistake. I assure you that I had
no intention of violating any restrictions and understand the
importance of adhering to all local traffic regulations.
Given the circumstances, I kindly request leniency and the
cancellation of this PCN. I hope you will consider the following
mitigating factors:
1. This being my first contravention.
2. My status as a non-local visitor.
3. Unawareness of the restriction
4. Evidence of my purpose for visiting the area (receipts
provided).
I greatly appreciate your understanding and consideration of my
case.
Thank you for taking the time to consider my representation, and
I look forward to your response.
Yours sincerely,
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Re: Imperial Road - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle (m) motor vehicles
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 16, 2025, 7:17 am
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You can make it shorter. I've added a couple of things
(underlined).
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Dear Sir/Madam,
I kindly request that you consider my case for discretion, as I
was unaware of the Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) restrictions
in the area. I am not local to the borough and was visiting the
area during the school Christmas holidays to take my children to
the Gambado Chelsea soft play center in STREET NAME, and so was
accessing a local facility and not using the route as a
cut-through.
I have attached receipts from Gambado as evidence of my visit.
At the time, I did not see any signs indicating the
restrictions. Had I been aware of the LTN or seen clear signage,
I would have avoided entering Imperial Road entirely.
Additionally, I did not take a shortcut to avoid traffic, as the
roads were quiet due to the holiday season.
This is my first PCN for this area and road, and I sincerely
apologise for this inadvertent mistake. I assure you that I had
no intention of violating any restrictions and understand the
importance of adhering to all local traffic regulations.
Thank you for taking the time to consider my representation, and
I look forward to your response.
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