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       #Post#: 4318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Box junction but I was moving! Battersea Bridge Road/
       Battersea church road 
   DIR By: troolykool
       Date: September 4, 2023, 5:36 am
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       I just spoke to TFL to request the video footage. They said they
       have put through a request for the footage to be posted to me
       but when I asked for confirmation that the case could be put on
       hold until I receive the DVD, they said it is not in their
       policy to do that and they wouldn't, nor could they confirm how
       long it would take for the DVD to arrive.They said if you don't
       make a rep before the date specified, the fee will just increase
       - I explained I needed the evidence but they said there's
       nothing they can do. Any advice? Or just sit and hope the DVD
       arrives quickly!?
       #Post#: 4320--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Box junction but I was moving! Battersea Bridge Road/
       Battersea church road 
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: September 4, 2023, 5:55 am
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       The 2003 Act under which the PCN was issued does not require the
       video evidence to be provided before you reach the tribunal.
       If in doubt, assuming you wish to contest the PCN, make a
       representation that the alleged contravention did not occur but
       that you have been obliged to make this representation without
       having seen the cctv because TfL could not tell you when they
       would send it.
       The discount will probably be offered if your representation is
       rejected but does not have to be.
       #Post#: 4340--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Box junction but I was moving! Battersea Bridge Road/
       Battersea church road 
   DIR By: troolykool
       Date: September 4, 2023, 10:23 am
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       Ok, thank you. I will make a representation making the following
       points:
       - I was turning left and only turned when I saw the traffic
       ahead of me was moving and would allow me to cross through the
       box junction. The car infront of me was moving into the space in
       front and I was following the flow of traffic. If the car ahead
       of me had been quicker in moving into the space infront of it
       then the flow of traffic would have been quicker and my back
       wheels wouldn't have been captured on the box even though I was
       moving.
       - I have requested video evidence to show I was moving but TFL
       can not confirm when I will receive this so am having to make
       the representation without it to avoid the charge increasing.
       - I have lived here for over ten years and regularly use this
       junction - I have never had this problem before.
       - Other cars are clearly stationary in the box but their
       registration plates are not visible. It is unfortunate that I
       have penalised due to my registration being visible, despite my
       car being on the move.
       Are there any points I should drop, rewrite or add? Thank you.
       #Post#: 4342--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Box junction but I was moving! Battersea Bridge Road/
       Battersea church road 
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: September 4, 2023, 10:42 am
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       Too long, don't admit to anything. Just copy what i said
       starting from 'the alleged' to 'send it'
       #Post#: 4418--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Box junction but I was moving! Battersea Bridge Road/
       Battersea church road 
   DIR By: troolykool
       Date: September 5, 2023, 9:06 am
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       Ok, but will that not just result in them rejecting my rep in
       favour of their images?
       #Post#: 4421--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Box junction but I was moving! Battersea Bridge Road/
       Battersea church road 
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: September 5, 2023, 9:11 am
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       Who can say but better than them using all that you planned to
       say against you.
       #Post#: 4652--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Box junction but I was moving! Battersea Bridge Road/
       Battersea church road 
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 8, 2023, 6:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: troolykool link ---
       >
       > Ok, but will that not just result in them rejecting my rep in
       favour of their images?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But they will reoffer the discount (as long as you make
       representations before midnight on Sunday), and by the time you
       get the rejection you should have the video and at least then we
       can see what's what.
       #Post#: 5261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Box junction but I was moving! Battersea Bridge Road/
       Battersea church road 
   DIR By: troolykool
       Date: September 16, 2023, 8:04 am
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       I’ve received the DVD but it doesn’t work!
       I have tried it on a PlayStation and a DVD player and in both
       cases it says ‘cannot be played’. Other DVDs work perfectly fine
       on both devices.
       The status of my rep without the DVD footage is still currently
       ‘under review’.
       what should I do?
       #Post#: 5339--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL Box junction but I was moving! Battersea Bridge Road/
       Battersea church road 
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 17, 2023, 6:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: troolykool link ---
       >
       > what should I do?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Get a proper computer with a DVD drive. Failing that, you'll
       have to pass the DVD to one of our members who lives in London,
       or post it to someone slightly further afield.
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