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Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector letters
x 2
DIR By: LMC11
Date: January 9, 2025, 9:22 pm
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Hi
I recently received two letters from a company called ZZPS (Debt
collection agency) demanding payment of £160 for their client
Smart Parking.
1st letter issued 19th Dec 2024 and 2nd issued 6th Jan 2025,
both arrived in the last 5 days. The parking event according to
the letter took place on the 17th Sep 2022. After checking Smart
parkings website is says they issued a PCN on the 3rd Oct 2022,
16days later. These are the only two letters i have received
regarding the PCN, no PCN or previous letters.Not moved address.
I am unable to appeal on the website as the time has passed,
which i understand as the parking event dates back to 2022.
POPlA appeals require a verification number which i don't have.
Reading on other posts its says not to imitate in communication
with the debt collectors. Whats the best way i can appeal this
and on what grounds?
I appreciate any help
thank you
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Re: Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector
letters x 2
DIR By: Dave65
Date: January 10, 2025, 3:42 am
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Have you moved address during this time?
#Post#: 52747--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector
letters x 2
DIR By: mickR
Date: January 10, 2025, 4:00 am
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READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!**,
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
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Re: Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector
letters x 2
DIR By: LMC11
Date: January 10, 2025, 5:00 am
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No, haven't moved address.
#Post#: 52809--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector
letters x 2
DIR By: b789
Date: January 10, 2025, 7:03 am
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If you have not received any previous notice about these Parking
Charge Notices (PCNs) and the first you have heard about it is a
debt collector letter, then it is almost certainly the case that
at the time of the alleged parking contraventions, your V5C
logbook had an old address that you forgot to update after a
change of address.
Many people update their drivers licence and simply assume that
their V5C will also be updated. It isn't. I suggest you triple
check your V5C now has your current address. If it does, check
the date it was updated and compare that date to the date of the
PCNs.
When you'v checked, come back and tell us the result and we can
then advise further.
#Post#: 52833--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector
letters x 2
DIR By: LMC11
Date: January 10, 2025, 8:06 am
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The log book is dated Jan 2021, when I purchased the vehicle and
has not been changed since. The PCN is dated Sep 2022.
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Re: Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector
letters x 2
DIR By: b789
Date: January 10, 2025, 9:46 am
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OK. Not to worry. For now continue to ignore any useless debt
collector letters. Never, ever contact a useless debt collector.
They are powerless and cannot do anything except try and scare
the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying out of
ignorance and fear.
The debt collectors are not a party to the contract allegedly
breached by the driver with the unregulated private parking
company. We don't need to know about them and you can safely
ignore them.
What you are waiting for is a Letter of Claim (LoC) which will
come from (not so) Smart's bulk litigator of choice. Most likely
DCB Legal. When you get the LoC, come back and we will advise on
if and how to respond before the N1SDT Claim Form arrives from
the CNBC.
#Post#: 64302--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector
letters x 2
DIR By: LMC11
Date: March 26, 2025, 4:36 pm
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Hi,
I received a letter of claim.
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Re: Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector
letters x 2
DIR By: b789
Date: March 26, 2025, 8:34 pm
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Respond with the following:
--- Quote ---
> Dear Sirs,
>
> Re: Letter of Claim dated 14th March 2025
>
> I refer to your Letter of Claim.
>
> I confirm that my address for service at this time is as
follows, and I request that any outdated address be erased from
your records to ensure compliance with data protection
obligations:
>
> [YOUR ADDRESS]
>
> Please note that the alleged debt is disputed, and any court
proceedings will be robustly defended.
>
> I note that the sum claimed has been increased by an excessive
and unjustifiable amount, which appears contrary to the
principles established by the Government, who described such
practices as “extorting money from motorists.” Please refrain
from sending boilerplate responses or justifications regarding
this issue.
>
> Under the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, I require
specific answers to the following questions:
>
> [indent]1. Does the additional £60 represent what you describe
as a “Debt Recovery” fee? If so, is this figure net of or
inclusive of VAT? If inclusive, I trust you will explain why I,
as the alleged debtor, am being asked to cover your client’s VAT
liability.
>
> 2. Regarding the principal sum of the alleged Parking Charge
Notice (PCN): Is this being claimed as damages for breach of
contract, or will it be pleaded as consideration for a purported
parking contract?[/indent]
>
> I would caution you against simply dismissing these questions
with vague or boilerplate responses, as I am fully aware of the
implications. By claiming that PCNs are exempt from VAT while
simultaneously inflating the debt recovery element, your client
– with your assistance – appears to be evading VAT obligations
due to HMRC. Such mendacious conduct raises serious questions
about the legality and ethics of your practices.
>
> I strongly advise your client to cease and desist. Should this
matter proceed to court, you can be assured that these issues
will be brought to the court’s attention, alongside a robust
defence and potentially a counterclaim for unreasonable conduct.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> 
[YOUR NAME]
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Re: Smart Parking - Insufficient Time Paid - Debt collector
letters x 2
DIR By: LMC11
Date: March 27, 2025, 9:27 am
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Thank you
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