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NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: January 4, 2025, 10:36 am
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Hello Guys
First of all- Thank you for creating this platform. I am sure
you all saving lives. I am new and posting something for the
first time and would appreciate your support. Let me elucidate
the agenda as following:
I have got a PCN National Parking Management (NPM) for not
having e-permit. I have appealed as keeper only and although its
rejected (Copy attached). My appeal was based upon having no
clear sign or instructions for paying or obtaining that
e-permit. Also- I parked there for a brief amount of time and
never left the vehicle. Still they issued it. I also advised
them not to share this PCN info with any Independent Agency or
so. But they rejected and advised to go through tribunal. Please
advise and I believe I have to take a step by 8th of January.I
have also attached my appeal representation with this as well.
Thank you for taking time reading this and let me know if you
need any more info. I would look forward to hear from you.
Regards
Md
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Re: NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: b789
Date: January 5, 2025, 3:22 am
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Can you please show us the Notice to Keeper (NtK) you received
(both sides) leaving all dates and times showing. We have no
idea of how long the vehicle is evidenced to have been at the
location. You go on about it in your appeal without stating the
period of parking.
Please read this thread and post the images of the NtK so that
we can assist in determining the best way forward: READ THIS
FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
Please don't sign formal letters with "Regards". You may as well
put "Love and kisses". Any formal letter should be signed "Yours
faithfully" if you don't know the person or "Yours sincerely" if
you do.
You have threatened to sue them for "harassment" under the
Harassment Act 1997 and breach of your GDPR under the Data
Protection Act 2018. Are you bluffing them or are you going to
follow through with your threat? NPM have not responded to it in
their appeal rejection. Maybe they don't believe you.
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Re: NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: January 5, 2025, 11:43 am
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Hi
Thanks for your reply and clarification. I have only received
the notice of rejection which I previously attached. This time I
have attached the copy of online images- it appears I was there
from 20:36 till 21:25 and during this time the engine was on and
the driver was inside the car the whole time, never left. I have
received this notice as the keeper of the vehicle.
In regards to suing them- not sure, how they can tell I am
bluffing where as I made it abundantly clear. However, I would
do my best legitimately to deal with this matter. This PCN does
not make sense.
Please advise.
Thanks
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Re: NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 5, 2025, 12:36 pm
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> I have only received the notice of rejection which I
previously attached.
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The only thing you have received is the notice of rejection?
That can't be right... How would you have known to appeal if you
hadn't received anything?
We need to see the original notice, and ideally photos of the
signage at the site.
An argument that the vehicle wasn't parked is very unlikely to
fly given the car was there for 50 minutes. The other arguments
may have more merit but we'll need to see the PCN and the
signage.
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Re: NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: January 5, 2025, 1:12 pm
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Hi
Apologies. Got you now - I have now attached the PCN and
pictures taken of the signage.
Thanks
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Re: NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: b789
Date: January 6, 2025, 3:59 am
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You've obscured one of the most important dates we need to see.
Please tell us the date of sending of the NtK.
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Re: NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: January 6, 2025, 8:04 am
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12th of November, 2024.
Thanks
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Re: NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: b789
Date: January 6, 2025, 8:51 am
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NtK appears to be PoFA compliant so they can hold the Keeper
liable if the drivers identity is not revealed. As NPM are an
IPC member, it is not worth appealing to the IAS.
You either pay it or wait and see if they issue a claim. If they
do, you defend it.
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Re: NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: January 6, 2025, 3:25 pm
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Hi
Thank for your reply. Do you mean- if they issue a charge
certificate as the next step and then appeal it? I believe that
would be appeal in court or debt agency? One more thing- I have
a pristine credit record and hope it would not subjected to any
CCJ or so which I would hate. As long as they communicate fairly
and on time.
Much obliged.
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Re: NPM- e Permit- Appeal by 8th of January
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 6, 2025, 3:37 pm
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Charge certificates are for council PCNs, no such thing in the
private process.
The next step will be a barrage of letters from debt collectors,
which you can ignore. If they decide to sue, at some point
you'll receive a Letter of Claim, if you do, come back here for
advice.
If the worst were to happen and you were to lose, providing you
pay on time, the CCJ would be removed from the public record,
avoiding harm to your credit score etc.
If you move house at all between now and the alleged debt
becoming time barred (6 years from the date of the parking
event) and the matter is not resolved, contact the Data
Protection Officer at NPM to inform them of your new address.
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