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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: John U.K.
Date: January 1, 2025, 5:36 am
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> Should I pay the penalty now which is still £80 and then
appeal it?
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As said earlier, paying closes the case and you may not then
appeal.
The one exception is where a car has been towed, and you have to
pay for release from the pound - then you may appeal.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: HateTFL
Date: January 1, 2025, 5:40 am
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Thank you - Are you absolutely sure?
Does it mean that appealing always means doubling the fine?
This seems unfair.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: January 1, 2025, 6:10 am
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The penalty charge is £160, not £80.
The discount sum is a one-off and time-limited(as regards
legislation) offer to motorists. TfL are not obliged to re-offer
the discount.
What you're implying is that any motorist should be able to
exhaust the enforcement and appeals processes at no financial
cost to them. As you can imagine, this would encourage '000000s
of potentially frivolous appeals and clog the system.
Without the video- which is their primary evidence and a key
element in your defence- we and you are blind.
..but not them.
Get hold of the video pl.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: HateTFL
Date: January 1, 2025, 6:18 am
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On the back of the last response I made the payment
And I am still going to lodge the appeal which if I win will
cause the penalty to be reimbursed
There seems to be misinformation on this site regarding paying
the penalty and then appealing (which from what I can see is
allowed) versus securing the discounted rate
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: mickR
Date: January 1, 2025, 6:37 am
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you're hoping for a refund on an appeal that they will never
accept. now they have your money it's good night Vienna.
please send your appeal and then come back to let us know how
you got on.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: mrmustard
Date: January 1, 2025, 6:51 am
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Yes, if you win you will be refunded. It used to be the case
that for appeals made during the discount period TfL would
settle for 50% if they won but they don't have to and I don't
know their current habit. More likely if you lose that you will
have to pay the other 50% but we will find out later.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: HateTFL
Date: January 1, 2025, 8:21 am
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If the appeal is successful and tfl do not pay I will send them
a small claim for the monies
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: HateTFL
Date: January 1, 2025, 8:24 am
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>
> Yes, if you win you will be refunded. It used to be the case
that for appeals made during the discount period TfL would
settle for 50% if they won but they don't have to and I don't
know their current habit. More likely if you lose that you will
have to pay the other 50% but we will find out later.
>
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Thank you this is also my understanding which shows there is
confusion on here and generally bad advice
From this appeal and there are many on tribunal (Case
reference
pay and then get the money back
The Enforcement Authority has informed me that they will not
contest your appeal against the Penalty Charge Notice(s)
mentioned above.
The Chief Adjudicator has therefore allowed your appeal without
considering your evidence or any details of the case. You are
not liable for any further charge(s) and, where appropriate, any
amounts already paid will be refunded by the Enforcement
Authority.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: mrmustard
Date: January 1, 2025, 8:29 am
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Let's just wait and see what happens shall we rather than
getting a bit excited and stirring the pond up.
I think it extremely unlikely that TfL would not follow the
adjudicator's decision as they are legally bound by it.
You are forgetting we are here because you stopped where you
shouldn't.
If there was a genuine breakdown such that you could not safely
proceed the attendance of the breakdown truck would have helped
an exemption argument.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
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DIR By: HateTFL
Date: January 1, 2025, 8:31 am
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No I am grateful to this community - I wanted to clarify the
advice that is on thsi forum which is not to pay and appeal - In
my view you should always pay and then appeal as its a free
option.
I could have not paid and appealed and then had to pay 160
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