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#Post#: 51535--------------------------------------------------
TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay - Archway
DIR By: HateTFL
Date: December 31, 2024, 1:42 pm
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Money is tight and I am a single parent
I parked for one minute in a red route bay O/S 26-268 Archway
Road - The picture shows my car enter at 08:59:18 and leave at
09:01:00 - A total of one minute 40 seconds
I sent of an appear to TFL saying that I had a warning light
whihc caused me to pull over but they rejected it - I got out
the car to read the sign and saw the sign hurried off and pulled
in further down the road
I have two questions
1) If I appeal to the adjudicator and lose will I be able to pay
£80 or will it increase to 160?
2) Is 1 minute 40 seconds to read the sign reasonable or can you
not stop even for one second?
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
Archway
DIR By: HateTFL
Date: December 31, 2024, 1:59 pm
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I did appeal to TFL stating that I had an oil light come on the
dash but it has been rejected
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
Archway
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: December 31, 2024, 4:56 pm
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Give us the PCN number and the number plate and I'll see if we
can find some more substantive grounds of appeal.
Also did you really have a warning light, or did you make that
up?
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
Archway
DIR By: HateTFL
Date: December 31, 2024, 5:58 pm
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The PCN is GX19171253 and the car is MV11OKX - Yes I did have a
warning light
Thank you for helping
There was an appeak at the same location which is interesting to
read as followws -
HTML https://londontribunals.org.uk/ords/pwslive/f?p=14952:70::INITIALISE::70:P70_CAS_REFNO,P70_PCN_REFNO,P70_RETURN_PAGE,P70_AST_CODE:1639512,3034307,60,APPEAL&cs=3xUWJ5b2sqxRUIjWJU6zCoaqOGKJYbgYv-A4axpufMP4tU5TVds41xPlc5w-HGirC8bbOW7PwRPTwyLeo6ADepg
"The Appellant has attended for his appeal.
The Authority's case is that the Appellant's vehicle was stopped
where prohibited when in Archway Road on 25 June 2024 at 08:40.
The Appellant's case is that he relied on the painted words
adjacent to this box which were LOADING ONLY when he stopped
briefly to make a commercial delivery.
I have considered the evidence and I find that the overall
signage at this location was inadequate and misleading.
The Authority has not produced the CCTV footage in this case. On
the evidence before me the sign plate in this box appears almost
hidden against shop premises and too easily missed.
Further, the large painted words adjacent to the location where
the Appellant's vehicle was stopped LOADING ONLY are not
prescribed by the TSRGD 2016 to be painted adjacent to a red
route box, and I find that it has caused confusion and
ambiguity.
Accordingly, I find that the overall signage was inadequate and
misleading and that this PCN is not proved.
The appeal is allowed."
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
Archway
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: December 31, 2024, 6:27 pm
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Can you please post the original PCN? Just redact your postal
address.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
Archway
DIR By: HateTFL
Date: January 1, 2025, 2:35 am
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Hi thanks so much - Here it is - Should I pay the fine and then
appeal to the tribual ?
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
Archway
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: January 1, 2025, 3:09 am
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--- Quote from: HateTFL link ---
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> Hi thanks so much - Here it is - Should I pay the fine and
then appeal to the tribual ?
>
>
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Paying the penalty closes the case!
As far as I can see, you've missed the re-offered (if the
discount was on hold) discount (by my calculation that expired
at midnight last night - what is the PCN's online status?) so
you have nothing to lose by appealing further.
Don't pay and wait for ther experts' views is my advice - but do
not miss deadlines.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
Archway
DIR By: HateTFL
Date: January 1, 2025, 3:14 am
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Does paying a penalty stop the appeal? If the appeal is decided
in my favour then they would have to refund that.
I saw a few cases where the appeal inspector states that a
refund would be given if penalty had been paid
Its still showing as £80 and I definitely cannot afford 160
which makes me nervous
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
Archway
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: January 1, 2025, 4:31 am
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Pl read the READ THIS FIRST guide at the top of the forum main
page.
Host docs and videos externally.
Where's TfL's video?
According to the NOR the discount would expire on 30 Dec.
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Re: TFL Rejected Appeal - One Minute Stop In Red Route Bay -
Archway
DIR By: HateTFL
Date: January 1, 2025, 5:22 am
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Hi I did not request the video : ( - I should have done that
I will make sure that uploads are done via the reccoemdnation
Should I pay the penalty now which is still £80 and then appeal
it?
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